The hopes of a soft landing and more: interview with Jason Schenker
Supply chain leaders are banking on a better 2024 than they experienced in 2023. But is their optimism justified? We asked acclaimed economist Jason Schenker that question and more.
David Maloney has been a journalist for more than 35 years and is currently the group editorial director for DC Velocity and Supply Chain Quarterly magazines. In this role, he is responsible for the editorial content of both brands of Agile Business Media. Dave joined DC Velocity in April of 2004. Prior to that, he was a senior editor for Modern Materials Handling magazine. Dave also has extensive experience as a broadcast journalist. Before writing for supply chain publications, he was a journalist, television producer and director in Pittsburgh. Dave combines a background of reporting on logistics with his video production experience to bring new opportunities to DC Velocity readers, including web videos highlighting top distribution and logistics facilities, webcasts and other cross-media projects. He continues to live and work in the Pittsburgh area.
By most accounts, 2023 was not a stellar year for companies in the supply chain sector. Rising inflation, high fuel costs, and a glut of inventory left over from the pandemic years combined to create a market that was sluggish at best.
Some sectors, like the trucking industry, experienced what amounted to a recession in everything but name. At the same time, warehouse projects were slow to get off the ground. And businesses of all stripes struggled to find the labor they needed.
But with the turn of a new year, there is always hope for better times ahead—and, in the case of the supply chain sector, that hope is justified, according to economist Jason Schenker.
Schenker, who serves as president of Prestige Economics and chairman of The Futurist Institute, is considered one of the best economic minds in the business. Bloomberg News has ranked him the #1 forecaster in the world in 26 categories since 2011. LinkedIn named him “Top Economics Voice,” and more than 1.1 million students have taken his LinkedIn Learning courses on economics, finance, risk management, and leadership.
Schenker is also the author of more than 30 books, including 15 bestsellers on supply chain, finance, energy, and the economy. He has provided economic and material handling forecasts for the industry association MHI since 2014. He spoke about supply chain economics with Group Editorial Director David Maloney on a recent episode of DC Velocity’s award-winning podcast, “Logistics Matters.”
Q: Jason, we just wrapped up 2023, which was a difficult year for companies that provide logistics and supply chain products and services. What were some of the factors that made things so tough?
A: I think there were a few things going on here. First and foremost, you had a rise in CapEx [capital expenditure] and OpEx [operating expense] costs. You had high interest rates, which eroded margins. You also had a tight labor market driving up labor costs. There were material costs and inflation that are still elevated. All of those factors were nipping away at the profit margins for businesses in the sector.
And, of course, we’ve also seen in some of the proprietary data that we produce for MHI—the MHI Business Activity Index—that new orders weren’t as strong as in the past, including several months where they were pretty weak.
However, shipments remain positive, as we saw the backlog burning off, with unfilled orders and inventories finally getting shipped out the door. But that reduction in new orders is something we’ll have to keep an eye on, especially in a relatively high-interest-rate environment.
Q: As you mentioned, interest rates remain high. How much does that affect investments in new technologies, which drives a lot of supply chain-related spending?
A: I think there are big investments still being made on the technology side. Anything that can boost productivity has still drawn tremendous investments. And, of course, if you are a business in the logistics, supply chain, or material handling space and you need equipment, some of the order times are still quite long because of the backlog that had built up so significantly in 2020 and 2021, and even parts of 2022. They’ve only really started easing in the past year. So, those things still represent challenges for many companies in the space.
Q: We’ve seen very low unemployment in the last couple of years, which has made it tough for companies looking to hire warehouse workers or truck drivers. Do you see the labor crunch easing anytime soon?
A: Oh, that’s been the real bugaboo for the industry, and that’s why there’s still so much interest in automated solutions and technologies that can boost productivity in logistics and supply chain.
If you look at some of the most recent data, we see that even for the month of October 2023, there were about 1.2 million open jobs in trade, transportation, and utilities. And if we dig a little bit deeper, there were 207,000 open jobs in wholesale trade in the U.S. In transportation, warehousing, and utilities, there were 488,000 open jobs. That’s a lot, right?
And even though the labor market slowed from 2022 to 2023, open jobs in transportation, warehousing, and utilities didn’t decline much in that period. There were 491,000 open jobs in October 2022 compared to 488,000 in October 2023—a drop of only 3,000 jobs. The reason I’m bringing this up is to show that the competition for labor is really, really tough. You have fewer than 2 million people collecting unemployment, and as of October, you had over 8.7 million open jobs. So, you have a lot more open jobs than people seeking work, and that’s been true throughout all of 2023. And it’s likely to remain a challenge throughout the year ahead.
Q: Will that put pressure on employers to raise salaries?
A: Well, it’s definitely a seller’s market if you are labor right now. That definitely drove up salaries in 2023, and it gave a lot of unions and other organized labor [groups] opportunities to push for wage increases. We saw it with the auto manufacturers and in health care, and we’ve seen it across industries.
And we could continue to see that, if the unemployment rate remains low, the number of people collecting unemployment remains low, and the number of open jobs remains high. You don’t need to run an economic research firm to know that if demand exceeds supply, then price goes up. And that means we could continue to see some labor price pressures, and further increases in wages, in the year ahead.
Q: Let’s look ahead to the remainder of this year. Do you think we’ll be able to achieve that soft economic landing that many are hoping for?
A: Well, that’s the hope, right? At the end of the day, the good news is that about 70% of GDP is driven by people buying stuff. It’s driven by consumption, and people with jobs who are making more money than they’ve ever made are out there spending. So, that’s the good news.
But it’s a double-edged sword with this labor force, because while we have a really tight labor market that’s really competitive for employers, it erodes profit margins, and that’s an issue. On the upside, by driving up wages and having full employment in the economy, you’ve got people out there making money, spending money, and that drives consumption, and it drives GDP. So, it’s really a mixed bag.
But trust me, we would rather have an economy with a tight labor market that’s growing than an economy where hiring is easy but there’s no business because we’re in a recession and so many people are out of work. So, this is the much preferred scenario at a macro level.
If I were to take a poll of companies working in supply chain and logistics and asked them, “Hey, would you rather struggle to maintain your profit margin, but still have lots and lots of business? Or would you rather be in a situation where business is slow, but labor is cheap and plentiful?”—trust me, the vote wouldn’t even be close. Most businesses would much rather be in a situation where we have a solid economy, solid growth, and strong consumption—and, yeah, labor has become pricier and it’s challenging to get high-quality people, but at least there is business to be done and a reason to hire.
Q: Let’s get a bit more specific. What do you feel are the prospects for supply chains in 2024?
A: I think we’re going to see more geopolitical risk. We’ve seen this for a number of years, as we see Cold War Two continuing to devolve, and we see trade tensions between the United States and China and their allies—tensions that have spilled over into regional proxy wars and will interfere with trade. We began to see that happen in the Red Sea, where hostilities are currently disrupting transit through the Suez Canal.
We have other supply chain issues and challenges in the Panama Canal as well that cropped up in the latter part of 2023. As we’re looking ahead, I think there’s still reason to keep our eye on these supply chain bottleneck risks.
And, of course, the war in Ukraine isn’t over, and that presents all kinds of commodity risks. And that, by the way, is what has engendered much of the inflation we’ve been seeing. So, that risk hasn’t gone away.
In addition to that, the geopolitical tensions in the Middle East present real risks to oil prices. We could see more conflicts proliferate globally that present risks of various stripes to supply chain industries, not just from a sourcing standpoint but even from a transit standpoint. So, I think geopolitics is going to be front and center as both an inflation risk and a cost risk, as well as a security-of-supply risk.
Q: It does sound like there are a lot of risks, but I also think supply chains have become more resilient over the last couple years. Will all the work they’ve done to boost resiliency bear fruit in 2024?
A: I think we’ve seen some improvements in resiliency, but the level of risk that we’re facing on a global basis is truly significant. I’d say here in North America, we’re in a blissful situation economically compared to the situation in China, where the economy has been weak and there are some major systemic problems, or in Europe, where the Russian war in Ukraine has had significant impacts and there have been some significant weaknesses.
So, the U.S. is in a charmed position economically, as we project out how the rest of the year is going to be, even if our growth slows or if job gains slow, because if inflation falls, the potential for lower interest rates increases, right? Those things all look increasingly likely, but even though we see some slower growth or some slower job gains, we don’t see a collapse. Part of the reason is that massive backlog of open jobs we’ve got across sectors, where [rising] wages are fueling economic growth.
We’re in a better spot than most economies. Securing your supply chain and being aware of geopolitical risks, both from a material-cost and from a security-of-supply standpoint, that could reverberate across your cost structure is going to be absolutely critical.
Container traffic is finally back to typical levels at the port of Montreal, two months after dockworkers returned to work following a strike, port officials said Thursday.
Today that arbitration continues as the two sides work to forge a new contract. And port leaders with the Maritime Employers Association (MEA) are reminding workers represented by the Canadian Union of Public Employees (CUPE) that the CIRB decision “rules out any pressure tactics affecting operations until the next collective agreement expires.”
The Port of Montreal alone said it had to manage a backlog of about 13,350 twenty-foot equivalent units (TEUs) on the ground, as well as 28,000 feet of freight cars headed for export.
Port leaders this week said they had now completed that task. “Two months after operations fully resumed at the Port of Montreal, as directed by the Canada Industrial Relations Board, the Montreal Port Authority (MPA) is pleased to announce that all port activities are now completely back to normal. Both the impact of the labour dispute and the subsequent resumption of activities required concerted efforts on the part of all port partners to get things back to normal as quickly as possible, even over the holiday season,” the port said in a release.
The “2024 Year in Review” report lists the various transportation delays, freight volume restrictions, and infrastructure repair costs of a long string of events. Those disruptions include labor strikes at Canadian ports and postal sites, the U.S. East and Gulf coast port strike; hurricanes Helene, Francine, and Milton; the Francis Scott key Bridge collapse in Baltimore Harbor; the CrowdStrike cyber attack; and Red Sea missile attacks on passing cargo ships.
“While 2024 was characterized by frequent and overlapping disruptions that exposed many supply chain vulnerabilities, it was also a year of resilience,” the Project44 report said. “From labor strikes and natural disasters to geopolitical tensions, each event served as a critical learning opportunity, underscoring the necessity for robust contingency planning, effective labor relations, and durable infrastructure. As supply chains continue to evolve, the lessons learned this past year highlight the increased importance of proactive measures and collaborative efforts. These strategies are essential to fostering stability and adaptability in a world where unpredictability is becoming the norm.”
In addition to tallying the supply chain impact of those events, the report also made four broad predictions for trends in 2025 that may affect logistics operations. In Project44’s analysis, they include:
More technology and automation will be introduced into supply chains, particularly ports. This will help make operations more efficient but also increase the risk of cybersecurity attacks and service interruptions due to glitches and bugs. This could also add tensions among the labor pool and unions, who do not want jobs to be replaced with automation.
The new administration in the United States introduces a lot of uncertainty, with talks of major tariffs for numerous countries as well as talks of US freight getting preferential treatment through the Panama Canal. If these things do come to fruition, expect to see shifts in global trade patterns and sourcing.
Natural disasters will continue to become more frequent and more severe, as exhibited by the wildfires in Los Angeles and the winter storms throughout the southern states in the U.S. As a result, expect companies to invest more heavily in sustainability to mitigate climate change.
The peace treaty announced on Wednesday between Isael and Hamas in the Middle East could support increased freight volumes returning to the Suez Canal as political crisis in the area are resolved.
The French transportation visibility provider Shippeo today said it has raised $30 million in financial backing, saying the money will support its accelerated expansion across North America and APAC, while driving enhancements to its “Real-Time Transportation Visibility Platform” product.
The funding round was led by Woven Capital, Toyota’s growth fund, with participation from existing investors: Battery Ventures, Partech, NGP Capital, Bpifrance Digital Venture, LFX Venture Partners, Shift4Good and Yamaha Motor Ventures. With this round, Shippeo’s total funding exceeds $140 million.
Shippeo says it offers real-time shipment tracking across all transport modes, helping companies create sustainable, resilient supply chains. Its platform enables users to reduce logistics-related carbon emissions by making informed trade-offs between modes and carriers based on carbon footprint data.
"Global supply chains are facing unprecedented complexity, and real-time transport visibility is essential for building resilience” Prashant Bothra, Principal at Woven Capital, who is joining the Shippeo board, said in a release. “Shippeo’s platform empowers businesses to proactively address disruptions by transforming fragmented operations into streamlined, data-driven processes across all transport modes, offering precise tracking and predictive ETAs at scale—capabilities that would be resource-intensive to develop in-house. We are excited to support Shippeo’s journey to accelerate digitization while enhancing cost efficiency, planning accuracy, and customer experience across the supply chain.”
Donald Trump has been clear that he plans to hit the ground running after his inauguration on January 20, launching ambitious plans that could have significant repercussions for global supply chains.
As Mark Baxa, CSCMP president and CEO, says in the executive forward to the white paper, the incoming Trump Administration and a majority Republican congress are “poised to reshape trade policies, regulatory frameworks, and the very fabric of how we approach global commerce.”
The paper is written by import/export expert Thomas Cook, managing director for Blue Tiger International, a U.S.-based supply chain management consulting company that focuses on international trade. Cook is the former CEO of American River International in New York and Apex Global Logistics Supply Chain Operation in Los Angeles and has written 19 books on global trade.
In the paper, Cook, of course, takes a close look at tariff implications and new trade deals, emphasizing that Trump will seek revisions that will favor U.S. businesses and encourage manufacturing to return to the U.S. The paper, however, also looks beyond global trade to addresses topics such as Trump’s tougher stance on immigration and the possibility of mass deportations, greater support of Israel in the Middle East, proposals for increased energy production and mining, and intent to end the war in the Ukraine.
In general, Cook believes that many of the administration’s new policies will be beneficial to the overall economy. He does warn, however, that some policies will be disruptive and add risk and cost to global supply chains.
In light of those risks and possible disruptions, Cook’s paper offers 14 recommendations. Some of which include:
Create a team responsible for studying the changes Trump will introduce when he takes office;
Attend trade shows and make connections with vendors, suppliers, and service providers who can help you navigate those changes;
Consider becoming C-TPAT (Customs-Trade Partnership Against Terrorism) certified to help mitigate potential import/export issues;
Adopt a risk management mindset and shift from focusing on lowest cost to best value for your spend;
Increase collaboration with internal and external partners;
Expect warehousing costs to rise in the short term as companies look to bring in foreign-made goods ahead of tariffs;
Expect greater scrutiny from U.S. Customs and Border Patrol of origin statements for imports in recognition of attempts by some Chinese manufacturers to evade U.S. import policies;
Reduce dependency on China for sourcing; and
Consider manufacturing and/or sourcing in the United States.
Cook advises readers to expect a loosening up of regulations and a reduction in government under Trump. He warns that while some world leaders will look to work with Trump, others will take more of a defiant stance. As a result, companies should expect to see retaliatory tariffs and duties on exports.
Cook concludes by offering advice to the incoming administration, including being sensitive to the effect retaliatory tariffs can have on American exports, working on federal debt reduction, and considering promoting free trade zones. He also proposes an ambitious water works program through the Army Corps of Engineers.
ReposiTrak, a global food traceability network operator, will partner with Upshop, a provider of store operations technology for food retailers, to create an end-to-end grocery traceability solution that reaches from the supply chain to the retail store, the firms said today.
The partnership creates a data connection between suppliers and the retail store. It works by integrating Salt Lake City-based ReposiTrak’s network of thousands of suppliers and their traceability shipment data with Austin, Texas-based Upshop’s network of more than 450 retailers and their retail stores.
That accomplishment is important because it will allow food sector trading partners to meet the U.S. FDA’s Food Safety Modernization Act Section 204d (FSMA 204) requirements that they must create and store complete traceability records for certain foods.
And according to ReposiTrak and Upshop, the traceability solution may also unlock potential business benefits. It could do that by creating margin and growth opportunities in stores by connecting supply chain data with store data, thus allowing users to optimize inventory, labor, and customer experience management automation.
"Traceability requires data from the supply chain and – importantly – confirmation at the retail store that the proper and accurate lot code data from each shipment has been captured when the product is received. The missing piece for us has been the supply chain data. ReposiTrak is the leader in capturing and managing supply chain data, starting at the suppliers. Together, we can deliver a single, comprehensive traceability solution," Mark Hawthorne, chief innovation and strategy officer at Upshop, said in a release.
"Once the data is flowing the benefits are compounding. Traceability data can be used to improve food safety, reduce invoice discrepancies, and identify ways to reduce waste and improve efficiencies throughout the store,” Hawthorne said.
Under FSMA 204, retailers are required by law to track Key Data Elements (KDEs) to the store-level for every shipment containing high-risk food items from the Food Traceability List (FTL). ReposiTrak and Upshop say that major industry retailers have made public commitments to traceability, announcing programs that require more traceability data for all food product on a faster timeline. The efforts of those retailers have activated the industry, motivating others to institute traceability programs now, ahead of the FDA’s enforcement deadline of January 20, 2026.