Creating a welcoming home: interview with Ramesh Murthy
At a time when many fleets are struggling with 90% turnover rates, the fleet run by Bob’s Discount Furniture boasts a retention rate just north of 97%. The secret, says CSCO Ramesh Murthy, lies in the retailer’s cultural emphasis on diversity and inclusion.
David Maloney has been a journalist for more than 35 years and is currently the group editorial director for DC Velocity and Supply Chain Quarterly magazines. In this role, he is responsible for the editorial content of both brands of Agile Business Media. Dave joined DC Velocity in April of 2004. Prior to that, he was a senior editor for Modern Materials Handling magazine. Dave also has extensive experience as a broadcast journalist. Before writing for supply chain publications, he was a journalist, television producer and director in Pittsburgh. Dave combines a background of reporting on logistics with his video production experience to bring new opportunities to DC Velocity readers, including web videos highlighting top distribution and logistics facilities, webcasts and other cross-media projects. He continues to live and work in the Pittsburgh area.
Retailers of all stripes have found themselves on a roller coaster ride over the past few years, thanks to fluctuating consumer demand and heightened expectations. But for home furnishing companies like Bob’s Discount Furniture, those challenges have been just the half of it. These furniture retailers have also faced escalating problems finding warehouse workers and fleet drivers.
Yet finding and retaining employees has not been much of a challenge for Bob’s, even during the depths of the pandemic. As for why it’s succeeding where others have failed, Ramesh Murthy, the company’s chief supply chain officer and executive vice president, says it all comes down to a culture that emphasizes diversity.
Murthy himself is responsible for maintaining that culture within the retailer’s end-to-end supply chain, where he oversees forecasting, planning, inventory management, inbound logistics, warehousing, and distribution. Prior to joining Bob’s, Murthy held senior supply chain positions at Hasbro, Tata Consultancy Services, CVS, and American Greetings. He recently was a guest on **{DC Velocity’}s “Logistics Matters” podcast, where he explained how his company’s focus on diversity has helped it achieve supply chain success.
Q: Could you tell us about the supply chain for Bob’s Discount Furniture, including your distribution network and transportation operations?
A: Bob’s has five distribution centers around the country serving 164 stores. The DCs include three in the Northeast, one in the Midwest, and one in California. We operate our own distribution centers, and we run our own linehaul fleet operations. All of our merchandise is sent from the distribution centers to one of 48 depots around the country, from which we provide last-mile deliveries. Our last-mile deliveries are done with third-party support.
Q: Last mile is obviously very difficult when handling bulky furniture. What do you look for in a partner to handle customer deliveries?
A: There are a lot of important things to consider. One of the big things we’ve done over the last few years is to start measuring delivery performance via net promoter scores [a market research metric based on a single survey question asking respondents how likely they’d be to recommend a product/service to a friend or colleague]. It’s a very, very important metric. So, we look for folks who are very customer service-oriented. And we’ve built [funding] into our budgets and plans to make sure the teams have enough people to physically move furniture and that they have all the right tools and capabilities. So generally, we’re trying to find some of the top last-mile providers out there.
Q: You mentioned tools that enable that last-mile delivery. What kind of tools do you offer to help those drivers make “big and bulky” deliveries?
A: Well, the tools themselves are just basic things like dollies and handcarts. We also make sure all of our folks have the appropriate footwear so they don’t scuff up the customer’s floors.
And in many cases, we even give our customers what we call the red carpet treatment: We put down a little red carpet across the threshold to make the customer feel that it’s a very important delivery for us.
Q: Do you also have technology tools that assist with those deliveries, such as routing tools and notifications to alert the customer that a truck is on its way?
A: Yes, we do. We have our own routing tools and routing capabilities. On top of that, we have a whole messaging system that keeps customers in the loop. They’ll get emails to notify them that the delivery is being scheduled as well as emails telling them when the delivery will take place. And if they’ve signed up for the service, they’ll also get text messages saying we will be coming today within this particular time window. And then generally, our folks will call the customer when they’re about 30 minutes out to make sure they’re home and to let them know they’re on their way.
Q: Bob’s Discount Furniture was recently named a top company for women to work for in transportation by the Women In Trucking Association. What steps have you taken to attract women drivers?
A: This has been a focus of our diversity and inclusion programs. And all of those elements have been a very important part of our culture at Bob’s from the very first day.
We’ve always wanted both our stores and our DCs to reflect the communities we work in. But getting women to join our ranks has required some effort. We make a concerted effort to go to places to find those folks, like working with Women In Trucking.
Today, we have reasonable female representation in a number of areas in our business—everyone from our routing director all the way through our routing managers, our administrators, our carrier partners, and our drivers. And we continue to work on that.
Q: You mentioned that you have a culture that supports diversity. Can you tell us about some of the steps you’ve taken to create that diversity?
A: So, aside from the fact that it’s sort of ingrained in how we hire, it’s also part of our core values. It’s something that our HR teams work very closely on. We do a tremendous amount of training with our folks. We measure how we’re doing on that. So now, even in our engagement surveys, we actually measure our diversity scores along the way. It gives us a read on where we are and where we’re succeeding and where we’re not. And we do a lot of training on things like unconscious bias. It just becomes a natural part of the rhythm of our day.
Q: What kind of roles do women perform in your transportation network? Are they working in inbound distribution to the stores? You mentioned that home deliveries are primarily done via third parties, but do you make any customer deliveries from your DCs?
A: No, all of the actual customer deliveries are done by our third parties. That’s just how we operate, but our own fleet drivers do everything else.
Today, just short of 10% of our fleet drivers are female. But then a lot of our service managers, the folks who are doing our routing and planning, are female. In our warehouses, a number of our managers and assistant managers are female as well. So, we’ve been trying to continue to drive that everywhere we can.
Q: As my wife would probably tell you, the last thing she’d want to do is move furniture all day. So, you have a large number of women working in your warehouses and your fleet. How does that square with the need to pick bulky furniture in the warehouse and then move it via truck?
A: Our drivers don’t have to move any goods—and that’s by design. Our drivers are leaving the goods at the depot, and then the depot teams will bring them in to get ready for the last-mile delivery. So that’s the first thing, right?
Then there are several other things we do to make these jobs more attractive. For instance, almost all of our drivers are home every day. They’re not doing long-haul trips. Even when we have our longer-haul destinations, we use teams for our linehaul so that they’re traveling part of the way, and then other teams take over. So, we’ve tried to arrange it so that people can be home every day and they don’t have to lift the heavy stuff. Those are things that really help in that regard.
Q: Employee turnover is a huge concern for the trucking industry, where annual turnover rates run as high as 90%. How does your fleet compare?
A: What if I told you that what you just described as a typical fleet’s turnover rate is slightly under our retention rate for 2022? Our retention rate across our fleet and our DCs is just north of 97%. I think that is a remarkable accomplishment on the part of our teams.
We take retention very, very seriously. We engage people daily. They can go in and just give us a happy face, frowny face, or neutral face, or they can put in a quick note to us. It’s something that we try to spend a lot of time on and that we pride ourselves on doing.
In the past year, we’ve spent a lot of time looking at the marketplace—and particularly at what we need to do to be competitive. How do we make the processes work more effectively, make sure people are paid appropriately? Those efforts have really paid off. I couldn’t be happier.
Q: What do you consider to be the keys to your transportation operation’s success?
A: I think it’s very important for us to keep trying to determine what makes us a good company to work for and make sure we’re always addressing those things that are not right. Maybe it’s processes that make it difficult to work. You asked about tools to move things earlier—all of our DCs are using lifts and equipment like that to help move products. We have one DC now with guided-by-wire technology. We’re trying to find the right technologies that will continue to help us improve our operations. But it’s very important to stay focused on the fundamentals. I think that’s what’s helped us this year, for sure, and I think that will help us as we go forward.
Q: During the height of the pandemic when people were stuck at home, a lot of them bought home furnishings. Has that slowed with the uncertain economy? What’s your outlook for the rest of the year, and how might that affect your expectations for your delivery operations?
A: We are an everyday-low-price retailer and a high-value retailer, so we have a positive outlook on the rest of 2023. As our CEO likes to say, our business model does well in good times and bad.
Most of the apparel sold in North America is manufactured in Asia, meaning the finished goods travel long distances to reach end markets, with all the associated greenhouse gas emissions. On top of that, apparel manufacturing itself requires a significant amount of energy, water, and raw materials like cotton. Overall, the production of apparel is responsible for about 2% of the world’s total greenhouse gas emissions, according to a report titled
Taking Stock of Progress Against the Roadmap to Net Zeroby the Apparel Impact Institute. Founded in 2017, the Apparel Impact Institute is an organization dedicated to identifying, funding, and then scaling solutions aimed at reducing the carbon emissions and other environmental impacts of the apparel and textile industries.
The author of this annual study is researcher and consultant Michael Sadowski. He wrote the first report in 2021 as well as the latest edition, which was released earlier this year. Sadowski, who is also executive director of the environmental nonprofit
The Circulate Initiative, recently joined DC Velocity Group Editorial Director David Maloney on an episode of the “Logistics Matters” podcast to discuss the key findings of the research, what companies are doing to reduce emissions, and the progress they’ve made since the first report was issued.
A: While companies in the apparel industry can set their own sustainability targets, we realized there was a need to give them a blueprint for actually reducing emissions. And so, we produced the first report back in 2021, where we laid out the emissions from the sector, based on the best estimates [we could make using] data from various sources. It gives companies and the sector a blueprint for what we collectively need to do to drive toward the ambitious reduction [target] of staying within a 1.5 degrees Celsius pathway. That was the first report, and then we committed to refresh the analysis on an annual basis. The second report was published last year, and the third report came out in May of this year.
Q: What were some of the key findings of your research?
A: We found that about half of the emissions in the sector come from Tier Two, which is essentially textile production. That includes the knitting, weaving, dyeing, and finishing of fabric, which together account for over half of the total emissions. That was a really important finding, and it allows us to focus our attention on the interventions that can drive those emissions down.
Raw material production accounts for another quarter of emissions. That includes cotton farming, extracting gas and oil from the ground to make synthetics, and things like that. So we now have a really keen understanding of the source of our industry’s emissions.
Q: Your report mentions that the apparel industry is responsible for about 2% of global emissions. Is that an accurate statistic?
A: That’s our best estimate of the total emissions [generated by] the apparel sector. Some other reports on the industry have apparel at up to 8% of global emissions. And there is a commonly misquoted number in the media that it’s 10%. From my perspective, I think the best estimate is somewhere under 2%.
We know that globally, humankind needs to reduce emissions by roughly half by 2030 and reach net zero by 2050 to hit international goals. [Reaching that target will require the involvement of] every facet of the global economy and every aspect of the apparel sector—transportation, material production, manufacturing, cotton farming. Through our work and that of others, I think the apparel sector understands what has to happen. We have highlighted examples of how companies are taking action to reduce emissions in the roadmap reports.
Q: What are some of those actions the industry can take to reduce emissions?
A: I think one of the positive developments since we wrote the first report is that we’re seeing companies really focus on the most impactful areas. We see companies diving deep on thermal energy, for example. With respect to Tier Two, we [focus] a lot of attention on things like ocean freight versus air. There’s a rule of thumb I’ve heard that indicates air freight is about 10 times the cost [of ocean] and also produces 10 times more greenhouse gas emissions.
There is money available to invest in sustainability efforts. It’s really exciting to see the funding that’s coming through for AI [artificial intelligence] and to see that individual companies, such as H&M and Lululemon, are investing in real solutions in their supply chains. I think a lot of concrete actions are being taken.
And yet we know that reducing emissions by half on an absolute basis by 2030 is a monumental undertaking. So I don’t want to be overly optimistic, because I think we have a lot of work to do. But I do think we’ve got some amazing progress happening.
Q: You mentioned several companies that are starting to address their emissions. Is that a result of their being more aware of the emissions they generate? Have you seen progress made since the first report came out in 2021?
A: Yes. When we published the first roadmap back in 2021, our statistics showed that only about 12 companies had met the criteria [for setting] science-based targets. In 2024, the number of apparel, textile, and footwear companies that have set targets or have commitments to set targets is close to 500. It’s an enormous increase. I think they see the urgency more than other sectors do.
We have companies that have been working at sustainability for quite a long time. I think the apparel sector has developed a keen understanding of the impacts of climate change. You can see the impacts of flooding, drought, heat, and other things happening in places like Bangladesh and Pakistan and India. If you’re a brand or a manufacturer and you have operations and supply chains in these places, I think you understand what the future will look like if we don’t significantly reduce emissions.
Q: There are different categories of emission levels, depending on the role within the supply chain. Scope 1 are “direct” emissions under the reporting company’s control. For apparel, this might be the production of raw materials or the manufacturing of the finished product. Scope 2 covers “indirect” emissions from purchased energy, such as electricity used in these processes. Scope 3 emissions are harder to track, as they include emissions from supply chain partners both upstream and downstream.
Now companies are finding there are legislative efforts around the world that could soon require them to track and report on all these emissions, including emissions produced by their partners’ supply chains. Does this mean that companies now need to be more aware of not only what greenhouse gas emissions they produce, but also what their partners produce?
A: That’s right. Just to put this into context, if you’re a brand like an Adidas or a Gap, you still have to consider the Scope 3 emissions. In particular, there are the so-called “purchased goods and services,” which refers to all of the embedded emissions in your products, from farming cotton to knitting yarn to making fabric. Those “purchased goods and services” generally account for well above 80% of the total emissions associated with a product. It’s by far the most significant portion of your emissions.
Leading companies have begun measuring and taking action on Scope 3 emissions because of regulatory developments in Europe and, to some extent now, in California. I do think this is just a further tailwind for the work that the industry is doing.
I also think it will definitely ratchet up the quality requirements of Scope 3 data, which is not yet where we’d all like it to be. Companies are working to improve that data, but I think the regulatory push will make the quality side increasingly important.
Q: Overall, do you think the work being done by the Apparel Impact Institute will help reduce greenhouse gas emissions within the industry?
A: When we started this back in 2020, we were at a place where companies were setting targets and knew their intended destination, but what they needed was a blueprint for how to get there. And so, the roadmap [provided] this blueprint and identified six key things that the sector needed to do—from using more sustainable materials to deploying renewable electricity in the supply chain.
Decarbonizing any sector, whether it’s transportation, chemicals, or automotive, requires investment. The Apparel Impact Institute is bringing collective investment, which is so critical. I’m really optimistic about what they’re doing. They have taken a data-driven, evidence-based approach, so they know where the emissions are and they know what the needed interventions are. And they’ve got the industry behind them in doing that.
The global air cargo market’s hot summer of double-digit demand growth continued in August with average spot rates showing their largest year-on-year jump with a 24% increase, according to the latest weekly analysis by Xeneta.
Xeneta cited two reasons to explain the increase. First, Global average air cargo spot rates reached $2.68 per kg in August due to continuing supply and demand imbalance. That came as August's global cargo supply grew at its slowest ratio in 2024 to-date at 2% year-on-year, while global cargo demand continued its double-digit growth, rising +11%.
The second reason for higher rates was an ocean-to-air shift in freight volumes due to Red Sea disruptions and e-commerce demand.
Those factors could soon be amplified as e-commerce shows continued strong growth approaching the hotly anticipated winter peak season. E-commerce and low-value goods exports from China in the first seven months of 2024 increased 30% year-on-year, including shipments to Europe and the US rising 38% and 30% growth respectively, Xeneta said.
“Typically, air cargo market performance in August tends to follow the July trend. But another month of double-digit demand growth and the strongest rate growths of the year means there was definitely no summer slack season in 2024,” Niall van de Wouw, Xeneta’s chief airfreight officer, said in a release.
“Rates we saw bottoming out in late July started picking up again in mid-August. This is too short a period to call a season. This has been a busy summer, and now we’re at the threshold of Q4, it will be interesting to see what will happen and if all the anticipation of a red-hot peak season materializes,” van de Wouw said.
The report cites data showing that there are approximately 1.7 million workers missing from the post-pandemic workforce and that 38% of small firms are unable to fill open positions. At the same time, the “skills gap” in the workforce is accelerating as automation and AI create significant shifts in how work is performed.
That information comes from the “2024 Labor Day Report” released by Littler’s Workplace Policy Institute (WPI), the firm’s government relations and public policy arm.
“We continue to see a labor shortage and an urgent need to upskill the current workforce to adapt to the new world of work,” said Michael Lotito, Littler shareholder and co-chair of WPI. “As corporate executives and business leaders look to the future, they are focused on realizing the many benefits of AI to streamline operations and guide strategic decision-making, while cultivating a talent pipeline that can support this growth.”
But while the need is clear, solutions may be complicated by public policy changes such as the upcoming U.S. general election and the proliferation of employment-related legislation at the state and local levels amid Congressional gridlock.
“We are heading into a contentious election that has already proven to be unpredictable and is poised to create even more uncertainty for employers, no matter the outcome,” Shannon Meade, WPI’s executive director, said in a release. “At the same time, the growing patchwork of state and local requirements across the U.S. is exacerbating compliance challenges for companies. That, coupled with looming changes following several Supreme Court decisions that have the potential to upend rulemaking, gives C-suite executives much to contend with in planning their workforce-related strategies.”
Stax Engineering, the venture-backed startup that provides smokestack emissions reduction services for maritime ships, will service all vessels from Toyota Motor North America Inc. visiting the Toyota Berth at the Port of Long Beach, according to a new five-year deal announced today.
Beginning in 2025 to coincide with new California Air Resources Board (CARB) standards, STAX will become the first and only emissions control provider to service roll-on/roll-off (ro-ros) vessels in the state of California, the company said.
Stax has rapidly grown since its launch in the first quarter of this year, supported in part by a $40 million funding round from investors, announced in July. It now holds exclusive service agreements at California ports including Los Angeles, Long Beach, Hueneme, Benicia, Richmond, and Oakland. The firm has also partnered with individual companies like NYK Line, Hyundai GLOVIS, Equilon Enterprises LLC d/b/a Shell Oil Products US (Shell), and now Toyota.
Stax says it offers an alternative to shore power with land- and barge-based, mobile emissions capture and control technology for shipping terminal and fleet operators without the need for retrofits.
In the case of this latest deal, the Toyota Long Beach Vehicle Distribution Center imports about 200,000 vehicles each year on ro-ro vessels. Stax will keep those ships green with its flexible exhaust capture system, which attaches to all vessel classes without modification to remove 99% of emitted particulate matter (PM) and 95% of emitted oxides of nitrogen (NOx). Over the lifetime of this new agreement with Toyota, Stax estimated the service will account for approximately 3,700 hours and more than 47 tons of emissions controlled.
“We set out to provide an emissions capture and control solution that was reliable, easily accessible, and cost-effective. As we begin to service Toyota, we’re confident that we can meet the needs of the full breadth of the maritime industry, furthering our impact on the local air quality, public health, and environment,” Mike Walker, CEO of Stax, said in a release. “Continuing to establish strong partnerships will help build momentum for and trust in our technology as we expand beyond the state of California.”
That result showed that driver wages across the industry continue to increase post-pandemic, despite a challenging freight market for motor carriers. The data comes from ATA’s “Driver Compensation Study,” which asked 120 fleets, more than 150,000 employee drivers, and 14,000 independent contractors about their wage and benefit information.
Drilling into specific categories, linehaul less-than-truckload (LTL) drivers earned a median annual amount of $94,525 in 2023, while local LTL drivers earned a median of $80,680. The median annual compensation for drivers at private carriers has risen 12% since 2021, reaching $95,114 in 2023. And leased-on independent contractors for truckload carriers were paid an annual median amount of $186,016 in 2023.
The results also showed how the demographics of the industry are changing, as carriers offered smaller referral and fewer sign-on bonuses for new drivers in 2023 compared to 2021 but more frequently offered tenure bonuses to their current drivers and with a greater median value.
"While our last study, conducted in 2021, illustrated how drivers benefitted from the strongest freight environment in a generation, this latest report shows professional drivers' earnings are still rising—even in a weaker freight economy," ATA Chief Economist Bob Costello said in a release. "By offering greater tenure bonuses to their current driver force, many fleets appear to be shifting their workforce priorities from recruitment to retention."