Creating a welcoming home: interview with Ramesh Murthy
At a time when many fleets are struggling with 90% turnover rates, the fleet run by Bob’s Discount Furniture boasts a retention rate just north of 97%. The secret, says CSCO Ramesh Murthy, lies in the retailer’s cultural emphasis on diversity and inclusion.
David Maloney has been a journalist for more than 35 years and is currently the group editorial director for DC Velocity and Supply Chain Quarterly magazines. In this role, he is responsible for the editorial content of both brands of Agile Business Media. Dave joined DC Velocity in April of 2004. Prior to that, he was a senior editor for Modern Materials Handling magazine. Dave also has extensive experience as a broadcast journalist. Before writing for supply chain publications, he was a journalist, television producer and director in Pittsburgh. Dave combines a background of reporting on logistics with his video production experience to bring new opportunities to DC Velocity readers, including web videos highlighting top distribution and logistics facilities, webcasts and other cross-media projects. He continues to live and work in the Pittsburgh area.
Retailers of all stripes have found themselves on a roller coaster ride over the past few years, thanks to fluctuating consumer demand and heightened expectations. But for home furnishing companies like Bob’s Discount Furniture, those challenges have been just the half of it. These furniture retailers have also faced escalating problems finding warehouse workers and fleet drivers.
Yet finding and retaining employees has not been much of a challenge for Bob’s, even during the depths of the pandemic. As for why it’s succeeding where others have failed, Ramesh Murthy, the company’s chief supply chain officer and executive vice president, says it all comes down to a culture that emphasizes diversity.
Murthy himself is responsible for maintaining that culture within the retailer’s end-to-end supply chain, where he oversees forecasting, planning, inventory management, inbound logistics, warehousing, and distribution. Prior to joining Bob’s, Murthy held senior supply chain positions at Hasbro, Tata Consultancy Services, CVS, and American Greetings. He recently was a guest on **{DC Velocity’}s “Logistics Matters” podcast, where he explained how his company’s focus on diversity has helped it achieve supply chain success.
Q: Could you tell us about the supply chain for Bob’s Discount Furniture, including your distribution network and transportation operations?
A: Bob’s has five distribution centers around the country serving 164 stores. The DCs include three in the Northeast, one in the Midwest, and one in California. We operate our own distribution centers, and we run our own linehaul fleet operations. All of our merchandise is sent from the distribution centers to one of 48 depots around the country, from which we provide last-mile deliveries. Our last-mile deliveries are done with third-party support.
Q: Last mile is obviously very difficult when handling bulky furniture. What do you look for in a partner to handle customer deliveries?
A: There are a lot of important things to consider. One of the big things we’ve done over the last few years is to start measuring delivery performance via net promoter scores [a market research metric based on a single survey question asking respondents how likely they’d be to recommend a product/service to a friend or colleague]. It’s a very, very important metric. So, we look for folks who are very customer service-oriented. And we’ve built [funding] into our budgets and plans to make sure the teams have enough people to physically move furniture and that they have all the right tools and capabilities. So generally, we’re trying to find some of the top last-mile providers out there.
Q: You mentioned tools that enable that last-mile delivery. What kind of tools do you offer to help those drivers make “big and bulky” deliveries?
A: Well, the tools themselves are just basic things like dollies and handcarts. We also make sure all of our folks have the appropriate footwear so they don’t scuff up the customer’s floors.
And in many cases, we even give our customers what we call the red carpet treatment: We put down a little red carpet across the threshold to make the customer feel that it’s a very important delivery for us.
Q: Do you also have technology tools that assist with those deliveries, such as routing tools and notifications to alert the customer that a truck is on its way?
A: Yes, we do. We have our own routing tools and routing capabilities. On top of that, we have a whole messaging system that keeps customers in the loop. They’ll get emails to notify them that the delivery is being scheduled as well as emails telling them when the delivery will take place. And if they’ve signed up for the service, they’ll also get text messages saying we will be coming today within this particular time window. And then generally, our folks will call the customer when they’re about 30 minutes out to make sure they’re home and to let them know they’re on their way.
Q: Bob’s Discount Furniture was recently named a top company for women to work for in transportation by the Women In Trucking Association. What steps have you taken to attract women drivers?
A: This has been a focus of our diversity and inclusion programs. And all of those elements have been a very important part of our culture at Bob’s from the very first day.
We’ve always wanted both our stores and our DCs to reflect the communities we work in. But getting women to join our ranks has required some effort. We make a concerted effort to go to places to find those folks, like working with Women In Trucking.
Today, we have reasonable female representation in a number of areas in our business—everyone from our routing director all the way through our routing managers, our administrators, our carrier partners, and our drivers. And we continue to work on that.
Q: You mentioned that you have a culture that supports diversity. Can you tell us about some of the steps you’ve taken to create that diversity?
A: So, aside from the fact that it’s sort of ingrained in how we hire, it’s also part of our core values. It’s something that our HR teams work very closely on. We do a tremendous amount of training with our folks. We measure how we’re doing on that. So now, even in our engagement surveys, we actually measure our diversity scores along the way. It gives us a read on where we are and where we’re succeeding and where we’re not. And we do a lot of training on things like unconscious bias. It just becomes a natural part of the rhythm of our day.
Q: What kind of roles do women perform in your transportation network? Are they working in inbound distribution to the stores? You mentioned that home deliveries are primarily done via third parties, but do you make any customer deliveries from your DCs?
A: No, all of the actual customer deliveries are done by our third parties. That’s just how we operate, but our own fleet drivers do everything else.
Today, just short of 10% of our fleet drivers are female. But then a lot of our service managers, the folks who are doing our routing and planning, are female. In our warehouses, a number of our managers and assistant managers are female as well. So, we’ve been trying to continue to drive that everywhere we can.
Q: As my wife would probably tell you, the last thing she’d want to do is move furniture all day. So, you have a large number of women working in your warehouses and your fleet. How does that square with the need to pick bulky furniture in the warehouse and then move it via truck?
A: Our drivers don’t have to move any goods—and that’s by design. Our drivers are leaving the goods at the depot, and then the depot teams will bring them in to get ready for the last-mile delivery. So that’s the first thing, right?
Then there are several other things we do to make these jobs more attractive. For instance, almost all of our drivers are home every day. They’re not doing long-haul trips. Even when we have our longer-haul destinations, we use teams for our linehaul so that they’re traveling part of the way, and then other teams take over. So, we’ve tried to arrange it so that people can be home every day and they don’t have to lift the heavy stuff. Those are things that really help in that regard.
Q: Employee turnover is a huge concern for the trucking industry, where annual turnover rates run as high as 90%. How does your fleet compare?
A: What if I told you that what you just described as a typical fleet’s turnover rate is slightly under our retention rate for 2022? Our retention rate across our fleet and our DCs is just north of 97%. I think that is a remarkable accomplishment on the part of our teams.
We take retention very, very seriously. We engage people daily. They can go in and just give us a happy face, frowny face, or neutral face, or they can put in a quick note to us. It’s something that we try to spend a lot of time on and that we pride ourselves on doing.
In the past year, we’ve spent a lot of time looking at the marketplace—and particularly at what we need to do to be competitive. How do we make the processes work more effectively, make sure people are paid appropriately? Those efforts have really paid off. I couldn’t be happier.
Q: What do you consider to be the keys to your transportation operation’s success?
A: I think it’s very important for us to keep trying to determine what makes us a good company to work for and make sure we’re always addressing those things that are not right. Maybe it’s processes that make it difficult to work. You asked about tools to move things earlier—all of our DCs are using lifts and equipment like that to help move products. We have one DC now with guided-by-wire technology. We’re trying to find the right technologies that will continue to help us improve our operations. But it’s very important to stay focused on the fundamentals. I think that’s what’s helped us this year, for sure, and I think that will help us as we go forward.
Q: During the height of the pandemic when people were stuck at home, a lot of them bought home furnishings. Has that slowed with the uncertain economy? What’s your outlook for the rest of the year, and how might that affect your expectations for your delivery operations?
A: We are an everyday-low-price retailer and a high-value retailer, so we have a positive outlook on the rest of 2023. As our CEO likes to say, our business model does well in good times and bad.
Congestion on U.S. highways is costing the trucking industry big, according to research from the American Transportation Research Institute (ATRI), released today.
The group found that traffic congestion on U.S. highways added $108.8 billion in costs to the trucking industry in 2022, a record high. The information comes from ATRI’s Cost of Congestion study, which is part of the organization’s ongoing highway performance measurement research.
Total hours of congestion fell slightly compared to 2021 due to softening freight market conditions, but the cost of operating a truck increased at a much higher rate, according to the research. As a result, the overall cost of congestion increased by 15% year-over-year—a level equivalent to more than 430,000 commercial truck drivers sitting idle for one work year and an average cost of $7,588 for every registered combination truck.
The analysis also identified metropolitan delays and related impacts, showing that the top 10 most-congested states each experienced added costs of more than $8 billion. That list was led by Texas, at $9.17 billion in added costs; California, at $8.77 billion; and Florida, $8.44 billion. Rounding out the top 10 list were New York, Georgia, New Jersey, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Louisiana, and Tennessee. Combined, the top 10 states account for more than half of the trucking industry’s congestion costs nationwide—52%, according to the research.
The metro areas with the highest congestion costs include New York City, $6.68 billion; Miami, $3.2 billion; and Chicago, $3.14 billion.
ATRI’s analysis also found that the trucking industry wasted more than 6.4 billion gallons of diesel fuel in 2022 due to congestion, resulting in additional fuel costs of $32.1 billion.
ATRI used a combination of data sources, including its truck GPS database and Operational Costs study benchmarks, to calculate the impacts of trucking delays on major U.S. roadways.
There’s a photo from 1971 that John Kent, professor of supply chain management at the University of Arkansas, likes to show. It’s of a shaggy-haired 18-year-old named Glenn Cowan grinning at three-time world table tennis champion Zhuang Zedong, while holding a silk tapestry Zhuang had just given him. Cowan was a member of the U.S. table tennis team who participated in the 1971 World Table Tennis Championships in Nagoya, Japan. Story has it that one morning, he overslept and missed his bus to the tournament and had to hitch a ride with the Chinese national team and met and connected with Zhuang.
Cowan and Zhuang’s interaction led to an invitation for the U.S. team to visit China. At the time, the two countries were just beginning to emerge from a 20-year period of decidedly frosty relations, strict travel bans, and trade restrictions. The highly publicized trip signaled a willingness on both sides to renew relations and launched the term “pingpong diplomacy.”
Kent, who is a senior fellow at the George H. W. Bush Foundation for U.S.-China Relations, believes the photograph is a good reminder that some 50-odd years ago, the economies of the United States and China were not as tightly interwoven as they are today. At the time, the Nixon administration was looking to form closer political and economic ties between the two countries in hopes of reducing chances of future conflict (and to weaken alliances among Communist countries).
The signals coming out of Washington and Beijing are now, of course, much different than they were in the early 1970s. Instead of advocating for better relations, political rhetoric focuses on the need for the U.S. to “decouple” from China. Both Republicans and Democrats have warned that the U.S. economy is too dependent on goods manufactured in China. They see this dependency as a threat to economic strength, American jobs, supply chain resiliency, and national security.
Supply chain professionals, however, know that extricating ourselves from our reliance on Chinese manufacturing is easier said than done. Many pundits push for a “China + 1” strategy, where companies diversify their manufacturing and sourcing options beyond China. But in reality, that “plus one” is often a Chinese company operating in a different country or a non-Chinese manufacturer that is still heavily dependent on material or subcomponents made in China.
This is the problem when supply chain decisions are made on a global scale without input from supply chain professionals. In an article in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, Kent argues that, “The discussions on supply chains mainly take place between government officials who typically bring many other competing issues and agendas to the table. Corporate entities—the individuals and companies directly impacted by supply chains—tend to be under-represented in the conversation.”
Kent is a proponent of what he calls “supply chain diplomacy,” where experts from academia and industry from the U.S. and China work collaboratively to create better, more efficient global supply chains. Take, for example, the “Peace Beans” project that Kent is involved with. This project, jointly formed by Zhejiang University and the Bush China Foundation, proposes balancing supply chains by exporting soybeans from Arkansas to tofu producers in China’s Yunnan province, and, in return, importing coffee beans grown in Yunnan to coffee roasters in Arkansas. Kent believes the operation could even use the same transportation equipment.
The benefits of working collaboratively—instead of continuing to build friction in the supply chain through tariffs and adversarial relationships—are numerous, according to Kent and his colleagues. They believe it would be much better if the two major world economies worked together on issues like global inflation, climate change, and artificial intelligence.
And such relations could play a significant role in strengthening world peace, particularly in light of ongoing tensions over Taiwan. Because, as Kent writes, “The 19th-century idea that ‘When goods don’t cross borders, soldiers will’ is as true today as ever. Perhaps more so.”
Hyster-Yale Materials Handling today announced its plans to fulfill the domestic manufacturing requirements of the Build America, Buy America (BABA) Act for certain portions of its lineup of forklift trucks and container handling equipment.
That means the Greenville, North Carolina-based company now plans to expand its existing American manufacturing with a targeted set of high-capacity models, including electric options, that align with the needs of infrastructure projects subject to BABA requirements. The company’s plans include determining the optimal production location in the United States, strategically expanding sourcing agreements to meet local material requirements, and further developing electric power options for high-capacity equipment.
As a part of the 2021 Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, the BABA Act aims to increase the use of American-made materials in federally funded infrastructure projects across the U.S., Hyster-Yale says. It was enacted as part of a broader effort to boost domestic manufacturing and economic growth, and mandates that federal dollars allocated to infrastructure – such as roads, bridges, ports and public transit systems – must prioritize materials produced in the USA, including critical items like steel, iron and various construction materials.
Hyster-Yale’s footprint in the U.S. is spread across 10 locations, including three manufacturing facilities.
“Our leadership is fully invested in meeting the needs of businesses that require BABA-compliant material handling solutions,” Tony Salgado, Hyster-Yale’s chief operating officer, said in a release. “We are working to partner with our key domestic suppliers, as well as identifying how best to leverage our own American manufacturing footprint to deliver a competitive solution for our customers and stakeholders. But beyond mere compliance, and in line with the many areas of our business where we are evolving to better support our customers, our commitment remains steadfast. We are dedicated to delivering industry-leading standards in design, durability and performance — qualities that have become synonymous with our brands worldwide and that our customers have come to rely on and expect.”
In a separate move, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) also gave its approval for the state to advance its Heavy-Duty Omnibus Rule, which is crafted to significantly reduce smog-forming nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions from new heavy-duty, diesel-powered trucks.
Both rules are intended to deliver health benefits to California citizens affected by vehicle pollution, according to the environmental group Earthjustice. If the state gets federal approval for the final steps to become law, the rules mean that cars on the road in California will largely be zero-emissions a generation from now in the 2050s, accounting for the average vehicle lifespan of vehicles with internal combustion engine (ICE) power sold before that 2035 date.
“This might read like checking a bureaucratic box, but EPA’s approval is a critical step forward in protecting our lungs from pollution and our wallets from the expenses of combustion fuels,” Paul Cort, director of Earthjustice’s Right To Zero campaign, said in a release. “The gradual shift in car sales to zero-emissions models will cut smog and household costs while growing California’s clean energy workforce. Cutting truck pollution will help clear our skies of smog. EPA should now approve the remaining authorization requests from California to allow the state to clean its air and protect its residents.”
However, the truck drivers' industry group Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association (OOIDA) pushed back against the federal decision allowing the Omnibus Low-NOx rule to advance. "The Omnibus Low-NOx waiver for California calls into question the policymaking process under the Biden administration's EPA. Purposefully injecting uncertainty into a $588 billion American industry is bad for our economy and makes no meaningful progress towards purported environmental goals," (OOIDA) President Todd Spencer said in a release. "EPA's credibility outside of radical environmental circles would have been better served by working with regulated industries rather than ramming through last-minute special interest favors. We look forward to working with the Trump administration's EPA in good faith towards achievable environmental outcomes.”
Editor's note:This article was revised on December 18 to add reaction from OOIDA.
A Canadian startup that provides AI-powered logistics solutions has gained $5.5 million in seed funding to support its concept of creating a digital platform for global trade, according to Toronto-based Starboard.
The round was led by Eclipse, with participation from previous backers Garuda Ventures and Everywhere Ventures. The firm says it will use its new backing to expand its engineering team in Toronto and accelerate its AI-driven product development to simplify supply chain complexities.
According to Starboard, the logistics industry is under immense pressure to adapt to the growing complexity of global trade, which has hit recent hurdles such as the strike at U.S. east and gulf coast ports. That situation calls for innovative solutions to streamline operations and reduce costs for operators.
As a potential solution, Starboard offers its flagship product, which it defines as an AI-based transportation management system (TMS) and rate management system that helps mid-sized freight forwarders operate more efficiently and win more business. More broadly, Starboard says it is building the virtual infrastructure for global trade, allowing freight companies to leverage AI and machine learning to optimize operations such as processing shipments in real time, reconciling invoices, and following up on payments.
"This investment is a pivotal step in our mission to unlock the power of AI for our customers," said Sumeet Trehan, Co-Founder and CEO of Starboard. "Global trade has long been plagued by inefficiencies that drive up costs and reduce competitiveness. Our platform is designed to empower SMB freight forwarders—the backbone of more than $20 trillion in global trade and $1 trillion in logistics spend—with the tools they need to thrive in this complex ecosystem."