Skip to content
Search AI Powered

Latest Stories

thought leaders

Take this ELD and love it!: interview with John Seidl

John Seidl is preaching electronic logging device (ELD) compliance, and he's telling his flock that ELDs can do great things for them once they climb the learning curve.

Take this ELD and love it!: interview with John Seidl

Few people understand a rule's impact better than those who've enforced it. That truism has made John Seidl a busy man these days. With the deadline for compliance with the federal government's electronic logging device (ELD) mandate looming, Seidl—who has more than 20 years' experience at the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA), which wrote the ELD rule, and who has served as a Wisconsin State Patrol motor carrier inspector—has been in high demand from carriers seeking compliance guidance. The firm he works for, Waukesha, Wis.-based Integrated Risk Solutions, has been retained by Arrive Logistics, an Austin, Texas-based third-party logistics service provider (3PL), to help carriers understand the mandate and its implications.

In late October, Seidl spoke with Mark B. Solomon, DC Velocity's executive editor-news, about the looming deadline, why so many fleets and drivers have yet to comply, what the initial productivity losses could be, and why ELDs might end up being a boon for everyone.


Q: As we speak, we are six weeks away from the deadline for ELD compliance. Where does the motor carrier segment stand in terms of hitting the Dec. 18 target?

A: There isn't hard data from an established third-party source. We all have best estimates. Based on my involvement, I would say 30 to 40 percent of the drivers nationwide have not yet complied.

Q: Why still a seemingly high percentage of noncompliance at this stage?

A: Keep in mind that the larger carriers, which are those with strong safety cultures, have worked with electronic logs for several years. What we have left are a lot of smaller fleets and owner-operators that don't have aggressive safety cultures. Or their systems aren't structured to support operating with ELDs.

Communications through the media about possible implementation delays has been a huge factor in keeping down compliance. First, fleets and drivers heard about the Trump administration planning to kill two rules for every new one enacted, and they thought ELD compliance would end up in the killed-rules category. Then it was the [Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association] making multiple and well-publicized efforts to delay or block implementation. That was interpreted as a sign of another delay in the deadline.

Q: Estimates of the carrier productivity hit post-Dec. 18 have ranged from 3 to 4 percent to the low double digits. Where do you come down?

A: In excess of 10 percent.

Q: How do you arrive at that estimate?

A: Let's say each of the 30 to 40 percent of noncompliant drivers is falsifying their paper log by three hours per week, which in my view is conservative. They could either be driving too long or getting back on the road eight and a half hours into their mandatory 10-hour rest cycle instead of waiting the full 10 hours. Put another way, say you have a 20-truck fleet and each driver is illegal for three hours per week. They could easily fudge those numbers with paper logs. But with ELDs, that additional driving time, and the productivity that accompanies it, goes away. Then you overlay the American Trucking Associations (ATA) estimates of a shortage of 50,000 drivers, which means trucks stay parked for lack of occupied seats, and it isn't hard to imagine a 10- to 12-percent productivity hit in the near term.

Q: Will drivers be able to get away with noncompliance?

A: Technically, they can. But it will be harder to do, and it will be easier to get caught. When a truck is stopped for any reason, logbooks are always checked. It will become apparent right away whether a driver is compliant. Owner-operators or fleets with two or three trucks might get away with not having ELDs. Once you get to fleets of six to nine trucks, though, the chances of being stopped will increase.

Noncompliance will not generate an out-of-service order until April because FMCSA delayed that part of the rule. However, being pulled over and not having an ELD will add points to a driver's or fleet's CSA [safety performance] scores, which raises their insurance premiums and puts them at a disadvantage when bidding on future business.

Q: Are there fleets that have looked beyond the initial adjustment phase and recognized that ELDs could result in a better, more efficient operation?

A: 100 percent yes. Go back to the fleets that installed automated on-board recorders years ago. They took a 4- to 6-percent initial productivity hit, but they improved their operational efficiency and they regained most of the loss in 12, 18, 24 months. This ties back to why the 10- to 12-percent productivity hit post-Dec. 18 is a realistic number. The financially stronger fleets with deeply ingrained safety cultures still took a near 6-percent hit. You can't tell me the ones that are still waiting to comply are going to take the same hit as those who have historically been safer.

Q: But you see good things coming out of ELD implementation?

A: Yes. Real-time asset tracking will be a huge benefit. Dispatchers can automatically see how much on-duty time a driver has left. Currently, they have to call, e-mail, or text to obtain that information. Dispatching systems that interact with good ELD equipment will enable auto-tracking of driver detention time, arrivals and departures, and invoicing. It will also prepopulate shipper numbers and bill-of-lading information so drivers don't have to do it. Also, because all of the data comes from the engine's operation, drivers and fleets can use ELDs to monitor idle times, braking action, and speed. All of these things make for a better run and more profitable business.

Will all carriers take advantage of it? No. Some will take the data, throw it in the corner, and do what they've always done, which is to deliver freight. I don't feel operational efficiencies will offset all the loss in productivity. However, in time and with changes to shipper, receiver, broker, motor carrier, and driver planning, much of the loss will be regained.

Q: Are there signs that shippers understand what is coming and will, if necessary, reconfigure their supply chains to ensure their freight gets moved?

A: In my career as a law enforcement officer, FMCSA official, and consultant, I had never spoken to or been questioned by shippers, receivers, or brokers about anything other than surety bonds. Since the ELD mandate, I've been constantly involved with shippers, brokers, and receivers, who are all eager to get information.

That said, shippers by and large are not ready for the mandate. They haven't taken proactive measures to accommodate the driver. They have policies and procedures for everyone, but none for drivers. Maybe 5 to 10 percent of shippers currently have policies to accommodate drivers. As a result, I think there will be a lot of reactive actions come mid-December. Those shippers who haven't thought about managing their driver relationships know who they are. They will not be shippers of choice, and they will have freight on their dock that won't get moved.

Q: Do you believe the ELD rule will have a significant impact on road safety?

A: Yes. There are a lot of drivers and fleets that operate safely, with or without the ELDs. Then there are drivers who technically run illegally, but it's 10 minutes here, 20 minutes there. That's not who the rule is designed for. We are talking about a relatively small percentage of drivers that abuse the system to make as much money as possible, and in the process, fatigue themselves terribly. If the ELD rules can rein in the 10 percent of drivers who push themselves too hard, then we can see better safety outcomes on the road.

The Latest

kion linde tugger truck
Lift Trucks, Personnel & Burden Carriers

Kion Group plans layoffs in cost-cutting plan

More Stories

photos of us capital dome and a container ship at dock

Supply chain groups push back on Trump tariff plan

Industry groups across the spectrum of supply chain operations today are pushing back against the Trump Administration plan to apply steep tariffs on imports from Canada, Mexico, and China, saying the additional fees are taxes that will undermine their profit margins, slow their economic investments, and raise prices for consumers.

Even as a last-minute deal today appeared to delay the tariff on Mexico, that deal is set to last only one month, and tariffs on the other two countries are still set to go into effect at midnight tonight.

Keep ReadingShow less

Featured

containers stacked in yard

U.S. manufacturers scramble to avoid pain of tariff war

Businesses are scrambling today to insulate their supply chains from the impacts of a trade war being launched by the Trump Administration, which is planning to erect high tariff walls on Tuesday against goods imported from Canada, Mexico, and China.

Tariffs are import taxes paid by American companies and collected by the U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Agency as goods produced in certain countries cross borders into the U.S.

Keep ReadingShow less
containers stacked on a ship in harbor

Average container transit time in Q4 climbed from 60 days to 68 days

Businesses dependent on ocean freight are facing shipping delays due to volatile conditions, as the global average trip for ocean shipments climbed to 68 days in the fourth quarter compared to 60 days for that same quarter a year ago, counting time elapsed from initial booking to clearing the gate at the final port, according to E2open.

Those extended transit times and booking delays are the ripple effects of ongoing turmoil at key ports that is being caused by geopolitical tensions, labor shortages, and port congestion, Dallas-based E2open said in its quarterly “Ocean Shipping Index” report.

Keep ReadingShow less
drawing of warehouse AMR bot with IOT data

North American manufacturers embrace “factory of the future”

Manufacturing enterprises in North America are breaking with tradition to harness the power of artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) as they seek to compete amid new technologies, consumer demands, and economic shifts, according to a report from the research and advisory firm Information Services Group (ISG).

That changing landscape is forcing companies to adapt or replace their traditional approaches to product design and production. Specifically, many are changing the way they run factories by optimizing supply chains, increasing sustainability, and integrating after-sales services into their business models.

Keep ReadingShow less
chart of women's portion of transport and storage jobs

Women hold only 12% of transportation and storage jobs worldwide

Women are significantly underrepresented in the global transport sector workforce, comprising only 12% of transportation and storage workers worldwide as they face hurdles such as unfavorable workplace policies and significant gender gaps in operational, technical and leadership roles, a study from the World Bank Group shows.

This underrepresentation limits diverse perspectives in service design and decision-making, negatively affects businesses and undermines economic growth, according to the report, “Addressing Barriers to Women’s Participation in Transport.” The paper—which covers global trends and provides in-depth analysis of the women’s role in the transport sector in Europe and Central Asia (ECA) and Middle East and North Africa (MENA)—was prepared jointly by the World Bank Group, the Asian Development Bank (ADB), the German Agency for International Cooperation (GIZ), the European Investment Bank (EIB), and the International Transport Forum (ITF).

Keep ReadingShow less