A champion for supply chains: interview with Kevin Smith
When it comes to the supply chain's value to an enterprise, there's more to it than most companies realize, says Kevin Smith, CSCMP's new chairman. He aims to get the word out.
Peter Bradley is an award-winning career journalist with more than three decades of experience in both newspapers and national business magazines. His credentials include seven years as the transportation and supply chain editor at Purchasing Magazine and six years as the chief editor of Logistics Management.
For Kevin Smith, it all started with a job unloading freight cars at a General Mills warehouse in Massachusetts. That was the entry point for a distinguished 30-plus-year career in logistics and supply chain management that has included executive-level positions at some of the world's best-known companies. For instance, prior to his retirement in 2008, Smith served as senior vice president supply chain & logistics and corporate sustainability officer for CVS Caremark. Before that, he worked for H.J. Heinz, where he was vice president of logistics and customer support, and for Kraft Foods, where he was the director of network design and implementation. Today, he is president and CEO of his own firm, Sustainable Supply Chain Consulting, which he started after retiring.
In September, Smith began a one-year term as chairman of the Council of Supply Chain Management Professionals (CSCMP). In addition to his CSCMP post, he is a special adviser to World 50, a private community for senior-most executives from globally respected organizations, and its Supply Chain 50 subgroup. Smith also serves on the advisory board of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's Center for Transportation & Logistics.
Smith spoke recently with Editorial Director Peter Bradley about his goals for CSCMP, the relevance of trade groups in the age of the Internet, and why the supply chain should get more respect.
Q: Congratulations on becoming the CSCMP chairman. My first question is what are your principal goals for the next year?
A: When I think about furthering the progress and development of what we do in supply chain management, I think there are three challenges: We have to provide foundational information for people to use in their own personal development. We need to build an appreciation of the importance of what we do as an industry. And we have to help supply chain managers develop the confidence to change, innovate, and involve—to make supply chains more effective, efficient, and important to their individual enterprises.
Q: How do you accomplish those goals?
A: Well, of course, you've got CSCMP as a network that can connect all kinds of people. Whether it's based on a particular business issue or it's mentoring or just networking within the industry, we have the wherewithal to do that because we have a lot of members who want to share either information or experiences.
We also have a lot of educational information, a lot of educational programs, a lot of pre-existing research that can be helpful to people trying to solve problems for their businesses. We've got all this content. The question is, how do you make it readily available to people in such a way that they recognize the importance or the value it brings to their enterprise? That is the tricky part.
Once they have that, it could help them develop confidence to take chances, introduce innovations, and actually try to look at the supply chain as something very positive for the enterprise.
I have seen this repeatedly, especially in 2008. In 2008, we hit the skids. Supply chains became very important to businesses. Why? Because the supply chain had the ability to influence both the top line through the way we dealt with customers and the bottom line in terms of saving money and decreasing costs within the enterprise. When that happened, it was almost like a switch went on, and CEOs and CFOs suddenly realized that supply chains could play an important role in making sure that the companies, in some cases, literally survived that first couple of years.
Now, as the environment improves, as the economy improves, I think there's a tendency to try to put supply chain operations and supply chain management back into the backroom and let the sexy marketing take over again. That has been the premier activity within the enterprise. I'm not sure that is wrong, but I think what is wrong is for companies or enterprises to totally disregard the importance of supply chain even in good times. The ability to control costs, to reduce costs for the enterprise, is very important. More important, though, is the ability of the supply chain to develop a relationship with the customers and clients, so that those customers and clients want to do more business with the enterprise. So to discount that and push it off to the side and focus your company on just marketing or just finance, I think you are losing something. We have a challenge within CSCMP to bring all that out into the open so CEOs and companies recognize the value of supply chain not just in cutting costs, but also in growing business.
Q: One of the challenges, not just for CSCMP but for every trade organization, is holding onto and building membership. Why do you think that is so, and what approach will CSCMP take to build membership?
A: When did membership in professional organizations start to wane? Some would say it was 9/11. A lot of people were afraid of traveling, and companies used it as an excuse to say, "Let's curtail travel." It actually started before that. The advent of the Internet and the "wiki" world that we live in, I think, has given people this false impression of where they can get knowledge and useful information.
I think it's a very small percentage of people that actually take that information and transform it into something that's really useful. I think as human beings, (it is) much more important to have interaction and to network with people, especially the people who have actually done what you're trying to do.
So, we've got what we call "the lifecycle" at CSCMP. We try to get people involved in CSCMP and supply chain from the time they are college students up to the time when they are senior fellows like me. So we categorize people as students, young professionals, mid-career, senior leaders, and senior fellows. You can participate in CSCMP whether you're 18 years old or 88. You just participate at a different level. What we're trying to do is develop an information network where people are able to participate no matter where they are in their career.
Q: You've been a supply chain professional for a long time, and now, in your current role, you see a lot of businesses. What do you see as the biggest challenges folks in our profession are facing?
A: As I said before, I think a lot of it is economically driven through the C-suite. The challenge for CSCMP and the challenge for enterprises over the next couple of years will be to try to capitalize on supply chains and leverage what the supply chains have to offer. In many businesses, the people who have the face-to-face interaction with companies, besides the individual salesperson, are the supply chain people. It is the supply chain that has to deliver in the end and look the customer in the eye and either say, "We've done what we promised to do" or "We failed in what we promised to do." So that relationship, I think, in many ways is as important as the sales-to-customer relationship—and in some cases, it is more important because the last and final impression that a customer gets is whether or not the product was delivered on time, complete, and free of damage. If the supply chain is doing all of those things, you're probably going to build a really good relationship with your clients. If it's not doing those things, then you're going to be in big trouble.
Q: Right, which goes back to the old silo argument we've been having for decades. If the merchants and sales and marketing people aren't talking to supply chain, you may have some issues.
A: Right, and, you know, I think a lot of companies have done a better job with that over the last few years, especially since 2008. Back in 2004 or so, 30 percent of companies had a position called supply chain or logistics that was either in the C-suite or reporting directly to the C-suite. By 2011, 80 percent of Fortune 500 companies had that position, supply chain or logistics reporting to or in the C-suite. There has been a recognition that supply chain management is important to the enterprise. The trick is keeping it top of mind because when things get good, when the economy is booming, when you can't help but sell things, enterprises lose track of the fact that the supply chain is important, and they only come back to that realization when things get tough.
Q: Wall Street pays attention to supply chain these days, too.
A: It does. But again, I think that has been more since 2008. I can recall being the first supply chain person at CVS to ask to present at an analysts' meeting in New York because of all the things we just talked about—the fact that we had a story to tell and it was not just about how we were cutting and controlling costs, but how we were adding to the value proposition on the top line.
We have certainly come a long way. The trick now is to make sure that we keep our value proposition front of mind so people understand that we're not just the backroom people who ship stuff and store stuff, but that we are also a part of the enterprise that helps add value to whatever product or service is being provided.
When you get the chance to automate your distribution center, take it.
That's exactly what leaders at interior design house
Thibaut Design did when they relocated operations from two New Jersey distribution centers (DCs) into a single facility in Charlotte, North Carolina, in 2019. Moving to an "empty shell of a building," as Thibaut's Michael Fechter describes it, was the perfect time to switch from a manual picking system to an automated one—in this case, one that would be driven by voice-directed technology.
"We were 100% paper-based picking in New Jersey," Fechter, the company's vice president of distribution and technology, explained in a
case study published by Voxware last year. "We knew there was a need for automation, and when we moved to Charlotte, we wanted to implement that technology."
Fechter cites Voxware's promise of simple and easy integration, configuration, use, and training as some of the key reasons Thibaut's leaders chose the system. Since implementing the voice technology, the company has streamlined its fulfillment process and can onboard and cross-train warehouse employees in a fraction of the time it used to take back in New Jersey.
And the results speak for themselves.
"We've seen incredible gains [from a] productivity standpoint," Fechter reports. "A 50% increase from pre-implementation to today."
THE NEED FOR SPEED
Thibaut was founded in 1886 and is the oldest operating wallpaper company in the United States, according to Fechter. The company works with a global network of designers, shipping samples of wallpaper and fabrics around the world.
For the design house's warehouse associates, picking, packing, and shipping thousands of samples every day was a cumbersome, labor-intensive process—and one that was prone to inaccuracy. With its paper-based picking system, mispicks were common—Fechter cites a 2% to 5% mispick rate—which necessitated stationing an extra associate at each pack station to check that orders were accurate before they left the facility.
All that has changed since implementing Voxware's Voice Management Suite (VMS) at the Charlotte DC. The system automates the workflow and guides associates through the picking process via a headset, using voice commands. The hands-free, eyes-free solution allows workers to focus on locating and selecting the right item, with no paper-based lists to check or written instructions to follow.
Thibaut also uses the tech provider's analytics tool, VoxPilot, to monitor work progress, check orders, and keep track of incoming work—managers can see what orders are open, what's in process, and what's completed for the day, for example. And it uses VoxTempo, the system's natural language voice recognition (NLVR) solution, to streamline training. The intuitive app whittles training time down to minutes and gets associates up and working fast—and Thibaut hitting minimum productivity targets within hours, according to Fechter.
EXPECTED RESULTS REALIZED
Key benefits of the project include a reduction in mispicks—which have dropped to zero—and the elimination of those extra quality-control measures Thibaut needed in the New Jersey DCs.
"We've gotten to the point where we don't even measure mispicks today—because there are none," Fechter said in the case study. "Having an extra person at a pack station to [check] every order before we pack [it]—that's been eliminated. Not only is the pick right the first time, but [the order] also gets packed and shipped faster than ever before."
The system has increased inventory accuracy as well. According to Fechter, it's now "well over 99.9%."
IT projects can be daunting, especially when the project involves upgrading a warehouse management system (WMS) to support an expansive network of warehousing and logistics facilities. Global third-party logistics service provider (3PL) CJ Logistics experienced this first-hand recently, embarking on a WMS selection process that would both upgrade performance and enhance security for its U.S. business network.
The company was operating on three different platforms across more than 35 warehouse facilities and wanted to pare that down to help standardize operations, optimize costs, and make it easier to scale the business, according to CIO Sean Moore.
Moore and his team started the WMS selection process in late 2023, working with supply chain consulting firm Alpine Supply Chain Solutions to identify challenges, needs, and goals, and then to select and implement the new WMS. Roughly a year later, the 3PL was up and running on a system from Körber Supply Chain—and planning for growth.
SECURING A NEW SOLUTION
Leaders from both companies explain that a robust WMS is crucial for a 3PL's success, as it acts as a centralized platform that allows seamless coordination of activities such as inventory management, order fulfillment, and transportation planning. The right solution allows the company to optimize warehouse operations by automating tasks, managing inventory levels, and ensuring efficient space utilization while helping to boost order processing volumes, reduce errors, and cut operational costs.
CJ Logistics had another key criterion: ensuring data security for its wide and varied array of clients, many of whom rely on the 3PL to fill e-commerce orders for consumers. Those clients wanted assurance that consumers' personally identifying information—including names, addresses, and phone numbers—was protected against cybersecurity breeches when flowing through the 3PL's system. For CJ Logistics, that meant finding a WMS provider whose software was certified to the appropriate security standards.
"That's becoming [an assurance] that our customers want to see," Moore explains, adding that many customers wanted to know that CJ Logistics' systems were SOC 2 compliant, meaning they had met a standard developed by the American Institute of CPAs for protecting sensitive customer data from unauthorized access, security incidents, and other vulnerabilities. "Everybody wants that level of security. So you want to make sure the system is secure … and not susceptible to ransomware.
"It was a critical requirement for us."
That security requirement was a key consideration during all phases of the WMS selection process, according to Michael Wohlwend, managing principal at Alpine Supply Chain Solutions.
"It was in the RFP [request for proposal], then in demo, [and] then once we got to the vendor of choice, we had a deep-dive discovery call to understand what [security] they have in place and their plan moving forward," he explains.
Ultimately, CJ Logistics implemented Körber's Warehouse Advantage, a cloud-based system designed for multiclient operations that supports all of the 3PL's needs, including its security requirements.
GOING LIVE
When it came time to implement the software, Moore and his team chose to start with a brand-new cold chain facility that the 3PL was building in Gainesville, Georgia. The 270,000-square-foot facility opened this past November and immediately went live running on the Körber WMS.
Moore and Wohlwend explain that both the nature of the cold chain business and the greenfield construction made the facility the perfect place to launch the new software: CJ Logistics would be adding customers at a staggered rate, expanding its cold storage presence in the Southeast and capitalizing on the location's proximity to major highways and railways. The facility is also adjacent to the future Northeast Georgia Inland Port, which will provide a direct link to the Port of Savannah.
"We signed a 15-year lease for the building," Moore says. "When you sign a long-term lease … you want your future-state software in place. That was one of the key [reasons] we started there.
"Also, this facility was going to bring on one customer after another at a metered rate. So [there was] some risk reduction as well."
Wohlwend adds: "The facility plus risk reduction plus the new business [element]—all made it a good starting point."
The early benefits of the WMS include ease of use and easy onboarding of clients, according to Moore, who says the plan is to convert additional CJ Logistics facilities to the new system in 2025.
"The software is very easy to use … our employees are saying they really like the user interface and that you can find information very easily," Moore says, touting the partnership with Alpine and Körber as key to making the project a success. "We are on deck to add at least four facilities at a minimum [this year]."
First, 54% of retailers are looking for ways to increase their financial recovery from returns. That’s because the cost to return a purchase averages 27% of the purchase price, which erases as much as 50% of the sales margin. But consumers have their own interests in mind: 76% of shoppers admit they’ve embellished or exaggerated the return reason to avoid a fee, a 39% increase from 2023 to 204.
Second, return experiences matter to consumers. A whopping 80% of shoppers stopped shopping at a retailer because of changes to the return policy—a 34% increase YoY.
Third, returns fraud and abuse is top-of-mind-for retailers, with wardrobing rising 38% in 2024. In fact, over two thirds (69%) of shoppers admit to wardrobing, which is the practice of buying an item for a specific reason or event and returning it after use. Shoppers also practice bracketing, or purchasing an item in a variety of colors or sizes and then returning all the unwanted options.
Fourth, returns come with a steep cost in terms of sustainability, with returns amounting to 8.4 billion pounds of landfill waste in 2023 alone.
“As returns have become an integral part of the shopper experience, retailers must balance meeting sky-high expectations with rising costs, environmental impact, and fraudulent behaviors,” Amena Ali, CEO of Optoro, said in the firm’s “2024 Returns Unwrapped” report. “By understanding shoppers’ behaviors and preferences around returns, retailers can create returns experiences that embrace their needs while driving deeper loyalty and protecting their bottom line.”
Facing an evolving supply chain landscape in 2025, companies are being forced to rethink their distribution strategies to cope with challenges like rising cost pressures, persistent labor shortages, and the complexities of managing SKU proliferation.
1. Optimize labor productivity and costs. Forward-thinking businesses are leveraging technology to get more done with fewer resources through approaches like slotting optimization, automation and robotics, and inventory visibility.
2. Maximize capacity with smart solutions. With e-commerce volumes rising, facilities need to handle more SKUs and orders without expanding their physical footprint. That can be achieved through high-density storage and dynamic throughput.
3. Streamline returns management. Returns are a growing challenge, thanks to the continued growth of e-commerce and the consumer practice of bracketing. Businesses can handle that with smarter reverse logistics processes like automated returns processing and reverse logistics visibility.
4. Accelerate order fulfillment with robotics. Robotic solutions are transforming the way orders are fulfilled, helping businesses meet customer expectations faster and more accurately than ever before by using autonomous mobile robots (AMRs and robotic picking.
5. Enhance end-of-line packaging. The final step in the supply chain is often the most visible to customers. So optimizing packaging processes can reduce costs, improve efficiency, and support sustainability goals through automated packaging systems and sustainability initiatives.
Keith Moore is CEO of AutoScheduler.AI, a warehouse resource planning and optimization platform that integrates with a customer's warehouse management system to orchestrate and optimize all activities at the site. Prior to venturing into the supply chain business, Moore was a director of product management at software startup SparkCognition. He is a graduate of the University of Tennessee, where he earned a Bachelor of Science degree in mechanical engineering.
Q: Autoscheduler provides tools for warehouse orchestration—a term some readers may not be familiar with. Could you explain what warehouse orchestration means?
A: Warehouse orchestration tools are software control layers that synthesize data from existing systems to eliminate costly delays, streamline inefficient workflows, and [prevent the waste of] resources in distribution operations. These platforms empower warehouses to optimize operations, enhance productivity, and improve order accuracy by dynamically prioritizing work continuously to ensure that the operation is always running optimally. This leads to faster trailer turn times, reduced costs, and a network that runs like clockwork, even during fluctuating demands.
Q: How is orchestration different from a typical warehouse management system?
A: A warehouse management system (WMS) focuses on tracking inventory and managing warehouse operations. Warehouse orchestration goes a step further by integrating and optimizing all aspects of warehouse activities in a capacity-constrained way. Orchestration provides a dynamic, real-time layer that coordinates various systems and processes, enabling more agile and responsive operations. It enhances decision-making by considering multiple variables and constraints.
Q: How does warehouse orchestration help facilities make their workers more productive?
A: Two ways to make labor in a warehouse more productive are to work harder and to work smarter. For teams that want to work harder, most companies use a labor management system to track individual performances against an expected standard. Warehouse orchestration technology focuses on the other side of the coin, helping warehouses "work smarter."
Warehouse orchestration technology optimizes labor by providing real-time insights into workload demands and resource availability based on actual fluctuating constraints around the building. It enables dynamic task assignments based on current priorities and worker skills, ensuring that labor is allocated where it's needed most, even accounting for equipment availability, flow constraints, and overall work speed. This approach reduces idle time, balances workloads, and enhances employee productivity.
Q: How can visibility improve operations?
A: Due to the software ecosystem in place today, most distribution operations are highly reactive environments where there is always a "hair on fire" problem that needs to be solved. By leveraging orchestration technologies, this problem is mitigated because you're providing the site with added visibility into the past, present, and future state of the operation. This opens up a vast number of doors for distribution leadership. They go from learning about a problem after it's happened to gaining the ability to inform customers and transportation teams about potential service issues that are 24 hours away.