Winning the war for talent: interview with Gerry Fay
What separates a global market leader from the also-rans is its people, says Gerry Fay of giant electronics distributor Avnet. That's why the company is so intent on winning the war for talent.
Mitch Mac Donald has more than 30 years of experience in both the newspaper and magazine businesses. He has covered the logistics and supply chain fields since 1988. Twice named one of the Top 10 Business Journalists in the U.S., he has served in a multitude of editorial and publishing roles. The leading force behind the launch of Supply Chain Management Review, he was that brand's founding publisher and editorial director from 1997 to 2000. Additionally, he has served as news editor, chief editor, publisher and editorial director of Logistics Management, as well as publisher of Modern Materials Handling. Mitch is also the president and CEO of Agile Business Media, LLC, the parent company of DC VELOCITY and CSCMP's Supply Chain Quarterly.
Gerry Fay has a lot on his plate. As the chief global logistics and operations officer for giant electronics distributor Avnet Inc., his job puts him in charge of an operation that spans the globe with 48 locations and ships 40,000-plus items per day on behalf of the 300 suppliers that make up Avnet's client base.
While those numbers may tell you something about the scope and scale of the operation, they don't begin to convey the magnitude of Fay's overarching challenge: keeping more than 100,000 end customers in 70 countries happy.
Fay may have the ideal background for the job. Upon joining Avnet in 2005, he was named senior vice president of global strategic accounts for Avnet United and created the Avnet Velocity global supply chain practice at Avnet Electronics Marketing. In that role, he led the expansion of a key accounts program designed to provide global support services to Avnet's top customer base.
He met recently with DC Velocity Group Editorial Director Mitch Mac Donald to discuss his career, Avnet's extensive logistics operations, and the company's strategy for winning the "war for talent."
Q: Could you describe the scale of Avnet's global logistics operation?
A: Avnet is the world's largest electronic equipment distributor by market cap. We are in many countries all around the world and finished FY 2012 at $25.7 billion in revenue. We've got about 3.4 million square feet of Avnet-owned warehouse space globally and ship billions of units each year.
Q: What are your key responsibilities? A: To think about the supply chain and the way we plan, source, make, and deliver. That naturally and ultimately includes everything related to making deliveries, integration of our cable and connector assembly facilities, our programming facilities, and then all of our warehousing facilities on a global basis. I oversee our corporate operational excellence program and a group called Avnet Velocity, through which we sell supply chain services to our supplier customer base.
Q: What skill sets do you draw on most heavily in your job? A: I spent my first 15 years in business in manufacturing, working for the big aerospace companies. I have been in distribution for 17 years. At Memec [an electronic components distributor acquired by Avnet in 2005], I really got to broaden my horizons because I started out running operations and eventually, as Memec went global, I became responsible for our global operations. Then, I moved into managing all parts of our supply chain and then, eventually, into being the president in the Americas, where I ran all the sales and marketing. I have been both a line and a staff guy.
I think one of the main skills that I brought with me when I moved from a sales-facing or customer-facing role back into this logistics role is an understanding of how our own logistics challenges affect the customer. The first question I always ask is: How is this affecting the customer, either positively or negatively?
Q: What are some of the biggest changes in logistics you've seen over your career? A: The two biggest changes, I think, have been changing customer expectations and what I call a "war for talent." Regarding the first, changing customer expectations, it used to be that if you got an order and you told the customer they'd get it in a week, they would be OK with that. Now, they expect things to happen overnight. We are in the Internet age. With that, the challenge for us in logistics is, How do we get that profitable proximity? How do we get close enough to satisfy the customer while being still able to have a logistics infrastructure that is supportable and cost-effective?
As to the war for talent, we are now expecting our logistics leaders to be a lot more strategic and to have a broader set of experiences. We want them to be knowledgeable, for instance, in how you set up logistics operations in emerging markets. We want them to know how you deal with different cultures, different laws, and different export and import rules.
Q: How about the converse? Can you point to anything that has remained constant over the years? A: The main thing that hasn't changed is that people are the key differentiator. Just about any company can go buy the latest conveyance, the latest WMS system, or the latest AS/RS and integrate it. The differentiator is how well your people are integrated into your operations.
We are very focused on employee engagement at Avnet because we believe if our employees are fairly paid, continue to be educated, are focused on doing their job, and have the tools to do that, that will translate to delighted customers, which means we will get more business, which means we can hire more logistics people. We see a nice healthy symbiotic relationship between employee engagement and customer engagement. For me, the biggest challenges I've had in my career in fixing logistics operations usually came down to management and employee engagement.
Q: You used a term I haven't heard before: war for talent. How does a company like Avnet approach that? How are you finding folks with the right skills? Are you bringing them up internally or are you hiring people at a higher level with more specialized degrees? A: The fundamental thing we do is succession planning. Through many levels down through the organization, we have identified who are our major succession candidates, who are our key players, and who are folks that need development. Then, we create development plans. Our ultimate goal is to grow people up in the organization.
Q: As folks move up the ladder, are they primarily coming out of logistics and supply chain management or are they coming from other areas of the company? A: It is a little bit of both. For the most part, they work their way through the logistics organization over time. One benefit we've had at Avnet is that because we have acquired so many companies, we generally get a look at the best talent that exists in the industry. One of the things that we say at Avnet when we do an acquisition is "Best people, best practice" and we really believe in that.
When we acquire a company, we look at the talent they have and determine if the talent is as good as or better than the talent we already have, and as much as possible, we will bring in those folks that we think can add to our talent base. I don't think most companies involved in an acquisition spend as much time evaluating the talent from businesses they acquire because a lot of time, it's all about synergies. When we do an acquisition, we are looking at both the Avnet folks and the acquired company's folks to really pick best of breed.
Q: What's the next big challenge on the horizon for managers striving for logistics excellence? A: As operations expand around the world, driving efficiency, effectiveness, and standardization becomes a bit of a challenge. A lot of companies have not designed their logistics networks to support future growth.
The next big thing, I think, is logistics leaders looking out in three- to five-year chunks about what emerging markets their companies are getting into and starting to plan what their logistics infrastructure will need to look like. I think that is a big change. It used to be, "Hey, we are going open up here, find us a warehouse and use a 3PL," but there wasn't a lot of thought of connecting those because business was generally fairly local. Now that it is global, a lot of times, the customer will be in the U.S. this week and move its manufacturing to Asia and expect you to move the supply chain. You've got to have a logistics infrastructure to support that.
Q: What advice would you offer someone considering a career in logistics and supply chain management? A: I would tell them that before they focus on logistics as an area of study to try to go get a summer job at a warehouse and learn what logistics is about from the inside out. Try to help build relationships with management there to understand that.
Once you do that, my personal opinion is that even if you are focused on logistics, move on to a focus on supply chain because you have a little bit broader background. I think that helps anyone understand how that all fits together and the role logistics plays in the supply chain.
Congestion on U.S. highways is costing the trucking industry big, according to research from the American Transportation Research Institute (ATRI), released today.
The group found that traffic congestion on U.S. highways added $108.8 billion in costs to the trucking industry in 2022, a record high. The information comes from ATRI’s Cost of Congestion study, which is part of the organization’s ongoing highway performance measurement research.
Total hours of congestion fell slightly compared to 2021 due to softening freight market conditions, but the cost of operating a truck increased at a much higher rate, according to the research. As a result, the overall cost of congestion increased by 15% year-over-year—a level equivalent to more than 430,000 commercial truck drivers sitting idle for one work year and an average cost of $7,588 for every registered combination truck.
The analysis also identified metropolitan delays and related impacts, showing that the top 10 most-congested states each experienced added costs of more than $8 billion. That list was led by Texas, at $9.17 billion in added costs; California, at $8.77 billion; and Florida, $8.44 billion. Rounding out the top 10 list were New York, Georgia, New Jersey, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Louisiana, and Tennessee. Combined, the top 10 states account for more than half of the trucking industry’s congestion costs nationwide—52%, according to the research.
The metro areas with the highest congestion costs include New York City, $6.68 billion; Miami, $3.2 billion; and Chicago, $3.14 billion.
ATRI’s analysis also found that the trucking industry wasted more than 6.4 billion gallons of diesel fuel in 2022 due to congestion, resulting in additional fuel costs of $32.1 billion.
ATRI used a combination of data sources, including its truck GPS database and Operational Costs study benchmarks, to calculate the impacts of trucking delays on major U.S. roadways.
There’s a photo from 1971 that John Kent, professor of supply chain management at the University of Arkansas, likes to show. It’s of a shaggy-haired 18-year-old named Glenn Cowan grinning at three-time world table tennis champion Zhuang Zedong, while holding a silk tapestry Zhuang had just given him. Cowan was a member of the U.S. table tennis team who participated in the 1971 World Table Tennis Championships in Nagoya, Japan. Story has it that one morning, he overslept and missed his bus to the tournament and had to hitch a ride with the Chinese national team and met and connected with Zhuang.
Cowan and Zhuang’s interaction led to an invitation for the U.S. team to visit China. At the time, the two countries were just beginning to emerge from a 20-year period of decidedly frosty relations, strict travel bans, and trade restrictions. The highly publicized trip signaled a willingness on both sides to renew relations and launched the term “pingpong diplomacy.”
Kent, who is a senior fellow at the George H. W. Bush Foundation for U.S.-China Relations, believes the photograph is a good reminder that some 50-odd years ago, the economies of the United States and China were not as tightly interwoven as they are today. At the time, the Nixon administration was looking to form closer political and economic ties between the two countries in hopes of reducing chances of future conflict (and to weaken alliances among Communist countries).
The signals coming out of Washington and Beijing are now, of course, much different than they were in the early 1970s. Instead of advocating for better relations, political rhetoric focuses on the need for the U.S. to “decouple” from China. Both Republicans and Democrats have warned that the U.S. economy is too dependent on goods manufactured in China. They see this dependency as a threat to economic strength, American jobs, supply chain resiliency, and national security.
Supply chain professionals, however, know that extricating ourselves from our reliance on Chinese manufacturing is easier said than done. Many pundits push for a “China + 1” strategy, where companies diversify their manufacturing and sourcing options beyond China. But in reality, that “plus one” is often a Chinese company operating in a different country or a non-Chinese manufacturer that is still heavily dependent on material or subcomponents made in China.
This is the problem when supply chain decisions are made on a global scale without input from supply chain professionals. In an article in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, Kent argues that, “The discussions on supply chains mainly take place between government officials who typically bring many other competing issues and agendas to the table. Corporate entities—the individuals and companies directly impacted by supply chains—tend to be under-represented in the conversation.”
Kent is a proponent of what he calls “supply chain diplomacy,” where experts from academia and industry from the U.S. and China work collaboratively to create better, more efficient global supply chains. Take, for example, the “Peace Beans” project that Kent is involved with. This project, jointly formed by Zhejiang University and the Bush China Foundation, proposes balancing supply chains by exporting soybeans from Arkansas to tofu producers in China’s Yunnan province, and, in return, importing coffee beans grown in Yunnan to coffee roasters in Arkansas. Kent believes the operation could even use the same transportation equipment.
The benefits of working collaboratively—instead of continuing to build friction in the supply chain through tariffs and adversarial relationships—are numerous, according to Kent and his colleagues. They believe it would be much better if the two major world economies worked together on issues like global inflation, climate change, and artificial intelligence.
And such relations could play a significant role in strengthening world peace, particularly in light of ongoing tensions over Taiwan. Because, as Kent writes, “The 19th-century idea that ‘When goods don’t cross borders, soldiers will’ is as true today as ever. Perhaps more so.”
Hyster-Yale Materials Handling today announced its plans to fulfill the domestic manufacturing requirements of the Build America, Buy America (BABA) Act for certain portions of its lineup of forklift trucks and container handling equipment.
That means the Greenville, North Carolina-based company now plans to expand its existing American manufacturing with a targeted set of high-capacity models, including electric options, that align with the needs of infrastructure projects subject to BABA requirements. The company’s plans include determining the optimal production location in the United States, strategically expanding sourcing agreements to meet local material requirements, and further developing electric power options for high-capacity equipment.
As a part of the 2021 Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, the BABA Act aims to increase the use of American-made materials in federally funded infrastructure projects across the U.S., Hyster-Yale says. It was enacted as part of a broader effort to boost domestic manufacturing and economic growth, and mandates that federal dollars allocated to infrastructure – such as roads, bridges, ports and public transit systems – must prioritize materials produced in the USA, including critical items like steel, iron and various construction materials.
Hyster-Yale’s footprint in the U.S. is spread across 10 locations, including three manufacturing facilities.
“Our leadership is fully invested in meeting the needs of businesses that require BABA-compliant material handling solutions,” Tony Salgado, Hyster-Yale’s chief operating officer, said in a release. “We are working to partner with our key domestic suppliers, as well as identifying how best to leverage our own American manufacturing footprint to deliver a competitive solution for our customers and stakeholders. But beyond mere compliance, and in line with the many areas of our business where we are evolving to better support our customers, our commitment remains steadfast. We are dedicated to delivering industry-leading standards in design, durability and performance — qualities that have become synonymous with our brands worldwide and that our customers have come to rely on and expect.”
In a separate move, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) also gave its approval for the state to advance its Heavy-Duty Omnibus Rule, which is crafted to significantly reduce smog-forming nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions from new heavy-duty, diesel-powered trucks.
Both rules are intended to deliver health benefits to California citizens affected by vehicle pollution, according to the environmental group Earthjustice. If the state gets federal approval for the final steps to become law, the rules mean that cars on the road in California will largely be zero-emissions a generation from now in the 2050s, accounting for the average vehicle lifespan of vehicles with internal combustion engine (ICE) power sold before that 2035 date.
“This might read like checking a bureaucratic box, but EPA’s approval is a critical step forward in protecting our lungs from pollution and our wallets from the expenses of combustion fuels,” Paul Cort, director of Earthjustice’s Right To Zero campaign, said in a release. “The gradual shift in car sales to zero-emissions models will cut smog and household costs while growing California’s clean energy workforce. Cutting truck pollution will help clear our skies of smog. EPA should now approve the remaining authorization requests from California to allow the state to clean its air and protect its residents.”
However, the truck drivers' industry group Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association (OOIDA) pushed back against the federal decision allowing the Omnibus Low-NOx rule to advance. "The Omnibus Low-NOx waiver for California calls into question the policymaking process under the Biden administration's EPA. Purposefully injecting uncertainty into a $588 billion American industry is bad for our economy and makes no meaningful progress towards purported environmental goals," (OOIDA) President Todd Spencer said in a release. "EPA's credibility outside of radical environmental circles would have been better served by working with regulated industries rather than ramming through last-minute special interest favors. We look forward to working with the Trump administration's EPA in good faith towards achievable environmental outcomes.”
Editor's note:This article was revised on December 18 to add reaction from OOIDA.
A Canadian startup that provides AI-powered logistics solutions has gained $5.5 million in seed funding to support its concept of creating a digital platform for global trade, according to Toronto-based Starboard.
The round was led by Eclipse, with participation from previous backers Garuda Ventures and Everywhere Ventures. The firm says it will use its new backing to expand its engineering team in Toronto and accelerate its AI-driven product development to simplify supply chain complexities.
According to Starboard, the logistics industry is under immense pressure to adapt to the growing complexity of global trade, which has hit recent hurdles such as the strike at U.S. east and gulf coast ports. That situation calls for innovative solutions to streamline operations and reduce costs for operators.
As a potential solution, Starboard offers its flagship product, which it defines as an AI-based transportation management system (TMS) and rate management system that helps mid-sized freight forwarders operate more efficiently and win more business. More broadly, Starboard says it is building the virtual infrastructure for global trade, allowing freight companies to leverage AI and machine learning to optimize operations such as processing shipments in real time, reconciling invoices, and following up on payments.
"This investment is a pivotal step in our mission to unlock the power of AI for our customers," said Sumeet Trehan, Co-Founder and CEO of Starboard. "Global trade has long been plagued by inefficiencies that drive up costs and reduce competitiveness. Our platform is designed to empower SMB freight forwarders—the backbone of more than $20 trillion in global trade and $1 trillion in logistics spend—with the tools they need to thrive in this complex ecosystem."