Winning the war for talent: interview with Gerry Fay
What separates a global market leader from the also-rans is its people, says Gerry Fay of giant electronics distributor Avnet. That's why the company is so intent on winning the war for talent.
Mitch Mac Donald has more than 30 years of experience in both the newspaper and magazine businesses. He has covered the logistics and supply chain fields since 1988. Twice named one of the Top 10 Business Journalists in the U.S., he has served in a multitude of editorial and publishing roles. The leading force behind the launch of Supply Chain Management Review, he was that brand's founding publisher and editorial director from 1997 to 2000. Additionally, he has served as news editor, chief editor, publisher and editorial director of Logistics Management, as well as publisher of Modern Materials Handling. Mitch is also the president and CEO of Agile Business Media, LLC, the parent company of DC VELOCITY and CSCMP's Supply Chain Quarterly.
Gerry Fay has a lot on his plate. As the chief global logistics and operations officer for giant electronics distributor Avnet Inc., his job puts him in charge of an operation that spans the globe with 48 locations and ships 40,000-plus items per day on behalf of the 300 suppliers that make up Avnet's client base.
While those numbers may tell you something about the scope and scale of the operation, they don't begin to convey the magnitude of Fay's overarching challenge: keeping more than 100,000 end customers in 70 countries happy.
Fay may have the ideal background for the job. Upon joining Avnet in 2005, he was named senior vice president of global strategic accounts for Avnet United and created the Avnet Velocity global supply chain practice at Avnet Electronics Marketing. In that role, he led the expansion of a key accounts program designed to provide global support services to Avnet's top customer base.
He met recently with DC Velocity Group Editorial Director Mitch Mac Donald to discuss his career, Avnet's extensive logistics operations, and the company's strategy for winning the "war for talent."
Q: Could you describe the scale of Avnet's global logistics operation?
A: Avnet is the world's largest electronic equipment distributor by market cap. We are in many countries all around the world and finished FY 2012 at $25.7 billion in revenue. We've got about 3.4 million square feet of Avnet-owned warehouse space globally and ship billions of units each year.
Q: What are your key responsibilities? A: To think about the supply chain and the way we plan, source, make, and deliver. That naturally and ultimately includes everything related to making deliveries, integration of our cable and connector assembly facilities, our programming facilities, and then all of our warehousing facilities on a global basis. I oversee our corporate operational excellence program and a group called Avnet Velocity, through which we sell supply chain services to our supplier customer base.
Q: What skill sets do you draw on most heavily in your job? A: I spent my first 15 years in business in manufacturing, working for the big aerospace companies. I have been in distribution for 17 years. At Memec [an electronic components distributor acquired by Avnet in 2005], I really got to broaden my horizons because I started out running operations and eventually, as Memec went global, I became responsible for our global operations. Then, I moved into managing all parts of our supply chain and then, eventually, into being the president in the Americas, where I ran all the sales and marketing. I have been both a line and a staff guy.
I think one of the main skills that I brought with me when I moved from a sales-facing or customer-facing role back into this logistics role is an understanding of how our own logistics challenges affect the customer. The first question I always ask is: How is this affecting the customer, either positively or negatively?
Q: What are some of the biggest changes in logistics you've seen over your career? A: The two biggest changes, I think, have been changing customer expectations and what I call a "war for talent." Regarding the first, changing customer expectations, it used to be that if you got an order and you told the customer they'd get it in a week, they would be OK with that. Now, they expect things to happen overnight. We are in the Internet age. With that, the challenge for us in logistics is, How do we get that profitable proximity? How do we get close enough to satisfy the customer while being still able to have a logistics infrastructure that is supportable and cost-effective?
As to the war for talent, we are now expecting our logistics leaders to be a lot more strategic and to have a broader set of experiences. We want them to be knowledgeable, for instance, in how you set up logistics operations in emerging markets. We want them to know how you deal with different cultures, different laws, and different export and import rules.
Q: How about the converse? Can you point to anything that has remained constant over the years? A: The main thing that hasn't changed is that people are the key differentiator. Just about any company can go buy the latest conveyance, the latest WMS system, or the latest AS/RS and integrate it. The differentiator is how well your people are integrated into your operations.
We are very focused on employee engagement at Avnet because we believe if our employees are fairly paid, continue to be educated, are focused on doing their job, and have the tools to do that, that will translate to delighted customers, which means we will get more business, which means we can hire more logistics people. We see a nice healthy symbiotic relationship between employee engagement and customer engagement. For me, the biggest challenges I've had in my career in fixing logistics operations usually came down to management and employee engagement.
Q: You used a term I haven't heard before: war for talent. How does a company like Avnet approach that? How are you finding folks with the right skills? Are you bringing them up internally or are you hiring people at a higher level with more specialized degrees? A: The fundamental thing we do is succession planning. Through many levels down through the organization, we have identified who are our major succession candidates, who are our key players, and who are folks that need development. Then, we create development plans. Our ultimate goal is to grow people up in the organization.
Q: As folks move up the ladder, are they primarily coming out of logistics and supply chain management or are they coming from other areas of the company? A: It is a little bit of both. For the most part, they work their way through the logistics organization over time. One benefit we've had at Avnet is that because we have acquired so many companies, we generally get a look at the best talent that exists in the industry. One of the things that we say at Avnet when we do an acquisition is "Best people, best practice" and we really believe in that.
When we acquire a company, we look at the talent they have and determine if the talent is as good as or better than the talent we already have, and as much as possible, we will bring in those folks that we think can add to our talent base. I don't think most companies involved in an acquisition spend as much time evaluating the talent from businesses they acquire because a lot of time, it's all about synergies. When we do an acquisition, we are looking at both the Avnet folks and the acquired company's folks to really pick best of breed.
Q: What's the next big challenge on the horizon for managers striving for logistics excellence? A: As operations expand around the world, driving efficiency, effectiveness, and standardization becomes a bit of a challenge. A lot of companies have not designed their logistics networks to support future growth.
The next big thing, I think, is logistics leaders looking out in three- to five-year chunks about what emerging markets their companies are getting into and starting to plan what their logistics infrastructure will need to look like. I think that is a big change. It used to be, "Hey, we are going open up here, find us a warehouse and use a 3PL," but there wasn't a lot of thought of connecting those because business was generally fairly local. Now that it is global, a lot of times, the customer will be in the U.S. this week and move its manufacturing to Asia and expect you to move the supply chain. You've got to have a logistics infrastructure to support that.
Q: What advice would you offer someone considering a career in logistics and supply chain management? A: I would tell them that before they focus on logistics as an area of study to try to go get a summer job at a warehouse and learn what logistics is about from the inside out. Try to help build relationships with management there to understand that.
Once you do that, my personal opinion is that even if you are focused on logistics, move on to a focus on supply chain because you have a little bit broader background. I think that helps anyone understand how that all fits together and the role logistics plays in the supply chain.
A move by federal regulators to reinforce requirements for broker transparency in freight transactions is stirring debate among transportation groups, after the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) published a “notice of proposed rulemaking” this week.
According to FMCSA, its draft rule would strive to make broker transparency more common, requiring greater sharing of the material information necessary for transportation industry parties to make informed business decisions and to support the efficient resolution of disputes.
The proposed rule titled “Transparency in Property Broker Transactions” would address what FMCSA calls the lack of access to information among shippers and motor carriers that can impact the fairness and efficiency of the transportation system, and would reframe broker transparency as a regulatory duty imposed on brokers, with the goal of deterring non-compliance. Specifically, the move would require brokers to keep electronic records, and require brokers to provide transaction records to motor carriers and shippers upon request and within 48 hours of that request.
Under federal regulatory processes, public comments on the move are due by January 21, 2025. However, transportation groups are not waiting on the sidelines to voice their opinions.
According to the Transportation Intermediaries Association (TIA), an industry group representing the third-party logistics (3PL) industry, the potential rule is “misguided overreach” that fails to address the more pressing issue of freight fraud. In TIA’s view, broker transparency regulation is “obsolete and un-American,” and has no place in today’s “highly transparent” marketplace. “This proposal represents a misguided focus on outdated and unnecessary regulations rather than tackling issues that genuinely threaten the safety and efficiency of our nation’s supply chains,” TIA said.
But trucker trade group the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association (OOIDA) welcomed the proposed rule, which it said would ensure that brokers finally play by the rules. “We appreciate that FMCSA incorporated input from our petition, including a requirement to make records available electronically and emphasizing that brokers have a duty to comply with regulations. As FMCSA noted, broker transparency is necessary for a fair, efficient transportation system, and is especially important to help carriers defend themselves against alleged claims on a shipment,” OOIDA President Todd Spencer said in a statement.
Additional pushback came from the Small Business in Transportation Coalition (SBTC), a network of transportation professionals in small business, which said the potential rule didn’t go far enough. “This is too little too late and is disappointing. It preserves the status quo, which caters to Big Broker & TIA. There is no question now that FMCSA has been captured by Big Broker. Truckers and carriers must now come out in droves and file comments in full force against this starting tomorrow,” SBTC executive director James Lamb said in a LinkedIn post.
The “series B” funding round was financed by an unnamed “strategic customer” as well as Teradyne Robotics Ventures, Toyota Ventures, Ranpak, Third Kind Venture Capital, One Madison Group, Hyperplane, Catapult Ventures, and others.
The fresh backing comes as Massachusetts-based Pickle reported a spate of third quarter orders, saying that six customers placed orders for over 30 production robots to deploy in the first half of 2025. The new orders include pilot conversions, existing customer expansions, and new customer adoption.
“Pickle is hitting its strides delivering innovation, development, commercial traction, and customer satisfaction. The company is building groundbreaking technology while executing on essential recurring parts of a successful business like field service and manufacturing management,” Omar Asali, Pickle board member and CEO of investor Ranpak, said in a release.
According to Pickle, its truck-unloading robot applies “Physical AI” technology to one of the most labor-intensive, physically demanding, and highest turnover work areas in logistics operations. The platform combines a powerful vision system with generative AI foundation models trained on millions of data points from real logistics and warehouse operations that enable Pickle’s robotic hardware platform to perform physical work at human-scale or better, the company says.
Bloomington, Indiana-based FTR said its Trucking Conditions Index declined in September to -2.47 from -1.39 in August as weakness in the principal freight dynamics – freight rates, utilization, and volume – offset lower fuel costs and slightly less unfavorable financing costs.
Those negative numbers are nothing new—the TCI has been positive only twice – in May and June of this year – since April 2022, but the group’s current forecast still envisions consistently positive readings through at least a two-year forecast horizon.
“Aside from a near-term boost mostly related to falling diesel prices, we have not changed our Trucking Conditions Index forecast significantly in the wake of the election,” Avery Vise, FTR’s vice president of trucking, said in a release. “The outlook continues to be more favorable for carriers than what they have experienced for well over two years. Our analysis indicates gradual but steadily rising capacity utilization leading to stronger freight rates in 2025.”
But FTR said its forecast remains unchanged. “Just like everyone else, we’ll be watching closely to see exactly what trade and other economic policies are implemented and over what time frame. Some freight disruptions are likely due to tariffs and other factors, but it is not yet clear that those actions will do more than shift the timing of activity,” Vise said.
The TCI tracks the changes representing five major conditions in the U.S. truck market: freight volumes, freight rates, fleet capacity, fuel prices, and financing costs. Combined into a single index indicating the industry’s overall health, a positive score represents good, optimistic conditions while a negative score shows the inverse.
Specifically, the new global average robot density has reached a record 162 units per 10,000 employees in 2023, which is more than double the mark of 74 units measured seven years ago.
Broken into geographical regions, the European Union has a robot density of 219 units per 10,000 employees, an increase of 5.2%, with Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Slovenia in the global top ten. Next, North America’s robot density is 197 units per 10,000 employees – up 4.2%. And Asia has a robot density of 182 units per 10,000 persons employed in manufacturing - an increase of 7.6%. The economies of Korea, Singapore, mainland China and Japan are among the top ten most automated countries.
Broken into individual countries, the U.S. ranked in 10th place in 2023, with a robot density of 295 units. Higher up on the list, the top five are:
The Republic of Korea, with 1,012 robot units, showing a 5% increase on average each year since 2018 thanks to its strong electronics and automotive industries.
Singapore had 770 robot units, in part because it is a small country with a very low number of employees in the manufacturing industry, so it can reach a high robot density with a relatively small operational stock.
China took third place in 2023, surpassing Germany and Japan with a mark of 470 robot units as the nation has managed to double its robot density within four years.
Germany ranks fourth with 429 robot units for a 5% CAGR since 2018.
Japan is in fifth place with 419 robot units, showing growth of 7% on average each year from 2018 to 2023.
Progress in generative AI (GenAI) is poised to impact business procurement processes through advancements in three areas—agentic reasoning, multimodality, and AI agents—according to Gartner Inc.
Those functions will redefine how procurement operates and significantly impact the agendas of chief procurement officers (CPOs). And 72% of procurement leaders are already prioritizing the integration of GenAI into their strategies, thus highlighting the recognition of its potential to drive significant improvements in efficiency and effectiveness, Gartner found in a survey conducted in July, 2024, with 258 global respondents.
Gartner defined the new functions as follows:
Agentic reasoning in GenAI allows for advanced decision-making processes that mimic human-like cognition. This capability will enable procurement functions to leverage GenAI to analyze complex scenarios and make informed decisions with greater accuracy and speed.
Multimodality refers to the ability of GenAI to process and integrate multiple forms of data, such as text, images, and audio. This will make GenAI more intuitively consumable to users and enhance procurement's ability to gather and analyze diverse information sources, leading to more comprehensive insights and better-informed strategies.
AI agents are autonomous systems that can perform tasks and make decisions on behalf of human operators. In procurement, these agents will automate procurement tasks and activities, freeing up human resources to focus on strategic initiatives, complex problem-solving and edge cases.
As CPOs look to maximize the value of GenAI in procurement, the study recommended three starting points: double down on data governance, develop and incorporate privacy standards into contracts, and increase procurement thresholds.
“These advancements will usher procurement into an era where the distance between ideas, insights, and actions will shorten rapidly,” Ryan Polk, senior director analyst in Gartner’s Supply Chain practice, said in a release. "Procurement leaders who build their foundation now through a focus on data quality, privacy and risk management have the potential to reap new levels of productivity and strategic value from the technology."