Rapid fulfillment on an unprecedented scale: interview with Amazon.com's Dave Clark
Amazon.com has become a dominant online retailer through a combination of vast product offerings and speedy order fulfillment. The secret, says Dave Clark, is in the people and the technology.
Peter Bradley is an award-winning career journalist with more than three decades of experience in both newspapers and national business magazines. His credentials include seven years as the transportation and supply chain editor at Purchasing Magazine and six years as the chief editor of Logistics Management.
On Black Friday this holiday season, e-commerce behemoth Amazon.com had 29 million visitors, according to a report in Forbes magazine. On Cyber Monday, Amazon led all other e-commerce businesses. While overall e-commerce sales enjoyed a healthy 17-percent jump over 2011 Cyber-Monday levels, Amazon's sales for the day climbed 42 percent, according to Businessweek.
Those millions of visits mean millions of orders, and getting those orders out the door for delivery to customers as soon as the next day—or in some cases, the same day—is an enormous undertaking for the company's fulfillment operations. Add rapid growth to the mix, and the challenge becomes mind-boggling. Yet it's one that the company meets thousands of times a day.
Overseeing that vast fulfillment operation is Dave Clark, vice president of global customer fulfillment for the online retailing giant. He is responsible for the company's supply chain, transportation, and fulfillment networks in North America, Japan, and Europe.
Clark, who holds an M.B.A. from the University of Tennessee and a B.A. from Auburn University, has been with Amazon through most of its growth. He joined the company in 1999, four years after its founding and two years after it went public, at a time when it was rapidly expanding the number of fulfillment centers it operates. Since then, he has held several key roles at Amazon, including general manager of a fulfillment center in Pennsylvania and regional director of operations. He was promoted to his current position in January 2012.
Editorial Director Peter Bradley talked with Clark at the Council of Supply Chain Management Professionals' Annual Global Conference in October about Amazon's hyperefficient fulfillment machine.
Q: There's been a lot of speculation about upcoming changes in Amazon's fulfillment strategy. Can you tell me what's ahead? Will same-day fulfillment be part of Amazon's future? A: We have had some incredible growth over the years and continue to have that. We expanded the network substantially. There are 75 fulfillment centers (FCs) around the world. In the United States, we continue to expand as well. We target development of FCs based on a couple of things, but as with everything we do, it starts with the customer. So we begin by asking questions like: Where are the customers? What is customer demand? We love to have our fulfillment centers as close as possible to customers.
Our priority is around improving the experience of our Amazon Prime customers. [Subscribers to Prime service get free or low-cost shipping as well as other benefits for a flat annual fee.] Prime customers now have a suite of opportunities, ranging from free two-day and discounted one-day shipping to video, Kindle, and visual library benefits. Our goal is to make that Prime experience even better. We already do same-day in some places in the United States as the opportunity presents, but our focus is really on the Prime service today.
Q: You've spent a lot of money on technology, both software and hardware like Kiva's order fulfillment robots [Kiva was acquired by Amazon in May 2012]. How does all this technology fit into your strategic business plans? A: We are super excited about the Kiva team. They are a great group of people and a great technology platform. Right now, we are still working through exactly how we want to deploy it across Amazon.
We really do essentially no third-party software solutions. We do everything in house because so much of what we do is very specialized and because all the decisions we make in technology are based on what we want to do for the customer.
Q: What are the criteria for determining where you're going to invest technology dollars? A: It is really a simple function. What is the best thing for the customer? What is going to provide the most benefit to the customer by either enabling greater selection on the platform, through enabling a faster delivery, or being able to lower prices?
I'm always amazed at the selection that is on the site and how much customers buy across that full selection of product. We always get questions relative to why we carry the tail [items with relatively low demand] because the typical distribution model wants to get rid of the tail. Operators don't like the tail. It is painful. It is highly variant—the cost to store it, what have you. But customers like the tail. It turns out selection is something people really care about, and so we leverage a great group of people in technology to find solutions to be able to deal with it.
Q: Amazon customers, like me, have come to expect next-day or second-day delivery as routine. What does it take in the design of both your DC operations and your logistics network to make that possible without breaking the bank? A: This goes back to the technology that you talked about. We are very focused on a couple of things. One, hiring and developing the best industry talent there is. We've had a long history of recruiting great people and great technologists, whether it be physical engineering, software engineering, or supply chain engineering types of folks. The other is the technology backbone that allows us to manage the inventory placement, order allocation, and facility design for the supply chain network.
Q: Let's talk a little more about the technology. Your customers interface with some of your technology directly, but a lot of it is not visible to consumers. Tell me something about how you bring all that together. A: They all have to work together, right? It is again part of why we do everything ourselves in house, because if you are trying to optimize for the customer and not each discrete portion of the operation, then everything has to be able to fit together. The system is looking at your order vs. the thousands of other orders placed around the same time or currently in the system and saying, OK, what is the best way to optimize this pool of orders and distribute it across a nationwide network? And to do it at the lowest cost that meets the standard of speed we need to achieve? Every step of the process, we're constantly running another optimization around the best place to allocate that order and the best transportation method to allocate that order and the best package type to allocate that order.
Technology is so ingrained in the way we think about solving problems and the way we think about creating innovations for customers that we really don't have an IT department. What we have are technology teams embedded in business teams, so they really work as one unit. Every team is thinking about innovation on a regular basis and how to leverage technology for innovation.
Q: Interesting. If it ain't broke, fix it anyway. A: If it ain't broke, it's probably just because you don't know it's broken.
Q: You've had an insider's view of many of the things that have enabled Amazon's growth. What are some of the major elements that make for a successful supply chain? A: There are two big things I would point to. One is hiring and developing the best. In fact, that's one of our core principles at Amazon—hiring and developing the best talent. We have done it for a long time and continue to do it because getting the right analytic and leadership firepower in your leadership team is critical to being successful.
The second part is integrating technology into the daily life of all the teams. There is no team that I know of in operations that isn't in some way connected to technology or embedded with technology teams. I think these are two things that I've seen over my time at Amazon that have really allowed us to be successful.
That changing landscape is forcing companies to adapt or replace their traditional approaches to product design and production. Specifically, many are changing the way they run factories by optimizing supply chains, increasing sustainability, and integrating after-sales services into their business models.
“North American manufacturers have embraced the factory of the future. Working with service providers, many companies are using AI and the cloud to make production systems more efficient and resilient,” Bob Krohn, partner at ISG, said in the “2024 ISG Provider Lens Manufacturing Industry Services and Solutions report for North America.”
To get there, companies in the region are aggressively investing in digital technologies, especially AI and ML, for product design and production, ISG says. Under pressure to bring new products to market faster, manufacturers are using AI-enabled tools for more efficient design and rapid prototyping. And generative AI platforms are already in use at some companies, streamlining product design and engineering.
At the same time, North American manufacturers are seeking to increase both revenue and customer satisfaction by introducing services alongside or instead of traditional products, the report says. That includes implementing business models that may include offering subscription, pay-per-use, and asset-as-a-service options. And they hope to extend product life cycles through an increasing focus on after-sales servicing, repairs. and condition monitoring.
Additional benefits of manufacturers’ increased focus on tech include better handling of cybersecurity threats and data privacy regulations. It also helps build improved resilience to cope with supply chain disruptions by adopting cloud-based supply chain management, advanced analytics, real-time IoT tracking, and AI-enabled optimization.
“The changes of the past several years have spurred manufacturers into action,” Jan Erik Aase, partner and global leader, ISG Provider Lens Research, said in a release. “Digital transformation and a culture of continuous improvement can position them for long-term success.”
Women are significantly underrepresented in the global transport sector workforce, comprising only 12% of transportation and storage workers worldwide as they face hurdles such as unfavorable workplace policies and significant gender gaps in operational, technical and leadership roles, a study from the World Bank Group shows.
This underrepresentation limits diverse perspectives in service design and decision-making, negatively affects businesses and undermines economic growth, according to the report, “Addressing Barriers to Women’s Participation in Transport.” The paper—which covers global trends and provides in-depth analysis of the women’s role in the transport sector in Europe and Central Asia (ECA) and Middle East and North Africa (MENA)—was prepared jointly by the World Bank Group, the Asian Development Bank (ADB), the German Agency for International Cooperation (GIZ), the European Investment Bank (EIB), and the International Transport Forum (ITF).
The slim proportion of women in the sector comes at a cost, since increasing female participation and leadership can drive innovation, enhance team performance, and improve service delivery for diverse users, while boosting GDP and addressing critical labor shortages, researchers said.
To drive solutions, the researchers today unveiled the Women in Transport (WiT) Network, which is designed to bring together transport stakeholders dedicated to empowering women across all facets and levels of the transport sector, and to serve as a forum for networking, recruitment, information exchange, training, and mentorship opportunities for women.
Initially, the WiT network will cover only the Europe and Central Asia and the Middle East and North Africa regions, but it is expected to gradually expand into a global initiative.
“When transport services are inclusive, economies thrive. Yet, as this joint report and our work at the EIB reveal, few transport companies fully leverage policies to better attract, retain and promote women,” Laura Piovesan, the European Investment Bank (EIB)’s Director General of the Projects Directorate, said in a release. “The Women in Transport Network enables us to unite efforts and scale impactful solutions - benefiting women, employers, communities and the climate.”
Oh, you work in logistics, too? Then you’ve probably met my friends Truedi, Lumi, and Roger.
No, you haven’t swapped business cards with those guys or eaten appetizers together at a trade-show social hour. But the chances are good that you’ve had conversations with them. That’s because they’re the online chatbots “employed” by three companies operating in the supply chain arena—TrueCommerce,Blue Yonder, and Truckstop. And there’s more where they came from. A number of other logistics-focused companies—like ChargePoint,Packsize,FedEx, and Inspectorio—have also jumped in the game.
While chatbots are actually highly technical applications, most of us know them as the small text boxes that pop up whenever you visit a company’s home page, eagerly asking questions like:
“I’m Truedi, the virtual assistant for TrueCommerce. Can I help you find what you need?”
“Hey! Want to connect with a rep from our team now?”
“Hi there. Can I ask you a quick question?”
Chatbots have proved particularly popular among retailers—an October survey by artificial intelligence (AI) specialist NLX found that a full 92% of U.S. merchants planned to have generative AI (GenAI) chatbots in place for the holiday shopping season. The companies said they planned to use those bots for both consumer-facing applications—like conversation-based product recommendations and customer service automation—and for employee-facing applications like automating business processes in buying and merchandising.
But how smart are these chatbots really? It varies. At the high end of the scale, there’s “Rufus,” Amazon’s GenAI-powered shopping assistant. Amazon says millions of consumers have used Rufus over the past year, asking it questions either by typing or speaking. The tool then searches Amazon’s product listings, customer reviews, and community Q&A forums to come up with answers. The bot can also compare different products, make product recommendations based on the weather where a consumer lives, and provide info on the latest fashion trends, according to the retailer.
Another top-shelf chatbot is “Manhattan Active Maven,” a GenAI-powered tool from supply chain software developer Manhattan Associates that was recently adopted by the Army and Air Force Exchange Service. The Exchange Service, which is the 54th-largest retailer in the U.S., is using Maven to answer inquiries from customers—largely U.S. soldiers, airmen, and their families—including requests for information related to order status, order changes, shipping, and returns.
However, not all chatbots are that sophisticated, and not all are equipped with AI, according to IBM. The earliest generation—known as “FAQ chatbots”—are only clever enough to recognize certain keywords in a list of known questions and then respond with preprogrammed answers. In contrast, modern chatbots increasingly use conversational AI techniques such as natural language processing to “understand” users’ questions, IBM said. It added that the next generation of chatbots with GenAI capabilities will be able to grasp and respond to increasingly complex queries and even adapt to a user’s style of conversation.
Given their wide range of capabilities, it’s not always easy to know just how “smart” the chatbot you’re talking to is. But come to think of it, maybe that’s also true of the live workers we come in contact with each day. Depending on who picks up the phone, you might find yourself speaking with an intern who’s still learning the ropes or a seasoned professional who can handle most any challenge. Either way, the best way to interact with our new chatbot colleagues is probably to take the same approach you would with their human counterparts: Start out simple, and be respectful; you never know what you’ll learn.
With the hourglass dwindling before steep tariffs threatened by the new Trump Administration will impose new taxes on U.S. companies importing goods from abroad, organizations need to deploy strategies to handle those spiraling costs.
American companies with far-flung supply chains have been hanging for weeks in a “wait-and-see” situation to learn if they will have to pay increased fees to U.S. Customs and Border Enforcement agents for every container they import from certain nations. After paying those levies, companies face the stark choice of either cutting their own profit margins or passing the increased cost on to U.S. consumers in the form of higher prices.
The impact could be particularly harsh for American manufacturers, according to Kerrie Jordan, Group Vice President, Product Management at supply chain software vendor Epicor. “If higher tariffs go into effect, imported goods will cost more,” Jordan said in a statement. “Companies must assess the impact of higher prices and create resilient strategies to absorb, offset, or reduce the impact of higher costs. For companies that import foreign goods, they will have to find alternatives or pay the tariffs and somehow offset the cost to the business. This can take the form of building up inventory before tariffs go into effect or finding an equivalent domestic alternative if they don’t want to pay the tariff.”
Tariffs could be particularly painful for U.S. manufacturers that import raw materials—such as steel, aluminum, or rare earth minerals—since the impact would have a domino effect throughout their operations, according to a statement from Matt Lekstutis, Director at consulting firm Efficio. “Based on the industry, there could be a large detrimental impact on a company's operations. If there is an increase in raw materials or a delay in those shipments, as being the first step in materials / supply chain process, there is the possibility of a ripple down effect into the rest of the supply chain operations,” Lekstutis said.
New tariffs could also hurt consumer packaged goods (CPG) retailers, which are already being hit by the mere threat of tariffs in the form of inventory fluctuations seen as companies have rushed many imports into the country before the new administration began, according to a report from Iowa-based third party logistics provider (3PL) JT Logistics. That jump in imported goods has quickly led to escalating demands for expanded warehousing, since CPG companies need a place to store all that material, Jamie Cord, president and CEO of JT Logistics, said in a release
Immediate strategies to cope with that disruption include adopting strategies that prioritize agility, including capacity planning and risk diversification by leveraging multiple fulfillment partners, and strategic inventory positioning across regional warehouses to bypass bottlenecks caused by trade restrictions, JT Logistics said. And long-term resilience recommendations include scenario-based planning, expanded supplier networks, inventory buffering, multimodal transportation solutions, and investment in automation and AI for insights and smarter operations, the firm said.
“Navigating the complexities of tariff-driven disruptions requires forward-thinking strategies,” Cord said. “By leveraging predictive modeling, diversifying warehouse networks, and strategically positioning inventory, JT Logistics is empowering CPG brands to remain adaptive, minimize risks, and remain competitive in the current dynamic market."
With so many variables at play, no company can predict the final impact of the potential Trump tariffs, so American companies should start planning for all potential outcomes at once, according to a statement from Nari Viswanathan, senior director of supply chain strategy at Coupa Software. Faced with layers of disruption—with the possible tariffs coming on top of pre-existing geopolitical conflicts and security risks—logistics hubs and businesses must prepare for any what-if scenario. In fact, the strongest companies will have scenarios planned as far out as the next three to five years, Viswanathan said.
Grocery shoppers at select IGA, Price Less, and Food Giant stores will soon be able to use an upgraded in-store digital commerce experience, since store chain operator Houchens Food Group said it would deploy technology from eGrowcery, provider of a retail food industry white-label digital commerce platform.
Kentucky-based Houchens Food Group, which owns and operates more than 400 grocery, convenience, hardware/DIY, and foodservice locations in 15 states, said the move would empower retailers to rethink how and when to engage their shoppers best.
“At HFG we are focused on technology vendors that allow for highly targeted and personalized customer experiences, data-driven decision making, and e-commerce capabilities that do not interrupt day to day customer service at store level. We are thrilled to partner with eGrowcery to assist us in targeting the right audience with the right message at the right time,” Craig Knies, Chief Marketing Officer of Houchens Food Group, said in a release.
Michigan-based eGrowcery, which operates both in the United States and abroad, says it gives retail groups like Houchens Food Group the ability to provide a white-label e-commerce platform to the retailers it supplies, and integrate the program into the company’s overall technology offering. “Houchens Food Group is a great example of an organization that is working hard to simultaneously enhance its technology offering, engage shoppers through more channels and alleviate some of the administrative burden for its staff,” Patrick Hughes, CEO of eGrowcery, said.