View from the ports' side: interview with Kurt J. Nagle
With more than 30 years of experience promoting international trade, Kurt Nagle has the right stuff to lead the American Association of Port Authorities—a group that serves ports from Alaska to Argentina.
Contributing Editor Toby Gooley is a writer and editor specializing in supply chain, logistics, and material handling, and a lecturer at MIT's Center for Transportation & Logistics. She previously was Senior Editor at DC VELOCITY and Editor of DCV's sister publication, CSCMP's Supply Chain Quarterly. Prior to joining AGiLE Business Media in 2007, she spent 20 years at Logistics Management magazine as Managing Editor and Senior Editor covering international trade and transportation. Prior to that she was an export traffic manager for 10 years. She holds a B.A. in Asian Studies from Cornell University.
Despite its name, the American Association of Port Authorities (AAPA) is a truly international organization. Its 160-plus member ports hail from throughout the Western Hemiäphere, from Alaska to Argentina. It's a constituency whose main business is facilitating global commerce; it is fitting, then, that President and CEO Kurt J. Nagle has a long history in promoting international trade.
After earning a master's degree in economics from George Mason University, Nagle went to work in the Office of International Economic Research at the U.S. Department of Commerce. From there, he became director of international trade for the National Coal Association and assistant secretary for the Coal Exporters Association. This year, he celebrated his 25th anniversary with AAPA, which he has headed since 1995. He also serves on the Executive Committee of the Propeller Club of the United States and is a former commissioner of PIANC, the International Navigation Congress.
Nagle speaks quickly but quietly, and his style is low-key—it's hard to imagine him getting angry or confrontational. But that calm demeanor doesn't mean he lacks passion for his subject. His enthusiasm was clearly evident when he spoke with DC Velocity about AAPA's four-part mission—advocacy, professional development and education, information sharing and relationship building among members, and promoting public awareness of the role and economic value of ports.
Q: You have a background in international economics and trade development. Does that help you to work more effectively with and on behalf of AAPA's members? A: It is relevant, and it has been helpful. In addition to my education, earlier in my career I worked for the U.S. Commerce Department's international trade branch on global economic issues. I also worked on international trade and related competitive issues while at the National Coal Association.
Certainly, that background has been helpful in recognizing that we're competing in a global economy and in understanding how that relates to our industry and to our members' competitiveness. It helps to understand what we have to do in the port industry and in the country as a whole about the issue of infrastructure investment. It is absolutely critical that we invest in infrastructure not only within the ports themselves but also in the connections to ports on the land side and on the water side to enable our country to be competitive.
Q: Your staff has changed in recent years. What kinds of expertise have you brought on board, and why? A: Our backgrounds and experiences reflect what is most important and relevant to our members and to our industry. First, we've added some resources that focus on initiatives like SHARE, which stands for Seaports of the Hemiäphere Allied in Relationships for Excellence. One of the key missions of this organization is to help members share lessons learned, best practices, and information about what works and what doesn't. ... We started SHARE about six years ago to enhance members' ability to share that kind of information. This also includes processes that facilitate electronic communication, such as our newsletter and webinars for education and for committee meetings.
More recently, we have increased resources for our "awareness" initiative, which is geared toward increasing recognition and understanding among policymakers—whether in Washington, in the various national governments throughout the Hemiäphere, or at the local level—of the critical importance of ports to national, regional, and local economies. We've also increased staff relative to U.S. transportation policy. With the surface transportation reauthorization coming up, it's critical that we work closely with government to develop a transportation policy that will help us as a nation to not only improve efficiency but also reduce congestion and improve air quality.
The third area where we've made staff changes is in adding someone who focuses on the Latin American delegation. His job is to ensure that issues that are particularly relevant and important to Latin American members are addressed and to facilitate the exchange of information. We also now have people on staff who have Spanish language and translation capabilities.
Q: AAPA's members include port authorities and managers from countries throughout the Western Hemiäphere. How does the organization meet the needs of such a diverse membership? A: One way we do that is by ensuring that resources that are contributed by everyone are not being used for something that benefits only some of our members. For example, our U.S. advocacy and government relations efforts are segregated in terms of staff, budget, and funding. Only U.S. members fund those resources.
Another way is that about 20 years ago, we separated our organizational structure into four delegations: Latin America, the Caribbean, Canada, and the United States. The delegations' leadership is represented on AAPA's executive committee and on the board of directors. By having all of the delegations represented in the broader policy and leadership positions, we are ensuring that the association provides value and is relevant to ports throughout the Hemiäphere. Certainly, when ports in different countries are looking at information technology or at developing a terminal, there are a lot of similar issues, questions, and practices. I think that's what members are looking for from us: to facilitate that exchange of information and lessons learned, and to provide a network and clearinghouse.
Q: AAPA has developed a training and certification program for port managers. What are the goals of that program? A: We started the Professional Port Manager, or PPM, program in the mid '90s. One of our key goals in the association is to enhance professional development. We also want to identify up-and-coming port leaders and provide them with the ability to develop their knowledge, skills, and relationships. These are all part of the PPM program.
About seven or eight years ago, we started a related program that includes issues that are particularly relevant to Latin American members. The program is offered in Spanish, or in Portuguese for the Brazilian ports.
This past year, we modified the regular program, which had been principally structured for individual study. We changed it to a class-based program; people now apply for a specific class and then go through the program together, for the most part, and we added group projects. That has really taken off. Our first class, the Class of 2014, started this year with 19 people. They've been together for two programs already, but there has been a lot of additional communication and correspondence among them. We're extremely pleased and excited by their enthusiasm and energy.
We have had about 80 people receive the PPM certification so far, and right now we have 150 total in the program. One of the requirements is a research project, a paper, or other type of project. ... Because our purpose is to educate and share information, we have made those papers and projects available so people can access and learn from them. This has been very beneficial to both individuals and ports.
Q: Transportation infrastructure is a hot topic in Washington now. Has AAPA been consulted on this issue? What are you telling Congress and the White House about how ports can contribute to efforts to revitalize the U.S. economy? A: We definitely have been asked to contribute to the dialogue. Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood very early on had a conference call with many of the transportation stakeholder organizations, and AAPA was asked to be part of that. ... In February of this year, Secretary LaHood held a port summit, where he invited port directors from throughout the country to talk to him personally on key issues related to ports. That was the first time something like that has been done.
We've had very good ongoing dialogue not only with the secretary himself but also throughout his department, and more broadly within the administration. ... Commerce Secretary Locke, the former governor of the state of Washington, where he was a supporter of the state's ports, is another high-level official in the current administration who understands the importance and value of international trade and ports. He also recognizes the need to have infrastructure that allows us to be competitive in international commerce.
The message we're giving them is that ports are literally economic lifelines. They are critical links that provide access to the global economy, to the goods consumers expect to be in the stores when they go shopping, to the parts and components manufacturers rely on, and to farmers' being able to ship their grain overseas. We need all of that to work efficiently in order to compete, especially with the president's call for doubling U.S. exports in the next five years.
Another thing we're stressing is that transportation infrastructure investment and projects provide not only short-term economic benefits and jobs, but also long-term benefits that can improve the entire system's performance and help our nation in terms of economic efficiency and competitiveness. There are also environmental benefits, because infrastructure investment can help to reduce congestion and airborne emissions. We think there needs to be a greater emphasis on freight transportation than there has been historically.
Q: The Panama Canal expansion is expected to change shipping and trade patterns. Meanwhile, the container shipping business has been very volatile. How are ports responding to such uncertainty—especially when these factors are beyond their control? A: Economic conditions have had a significant impact on global trade, and obviously that has had an impact on ports' revenues and resources. Many of our members have had to undergo fairly significant belt tightening and look at reducing costs everywhere possible. But they still have to think about where to put their resources to manage through this. In many cases, ports are continuing to move forward with projects that will be needed when trade and commerce pick up again. These are long-term infrastructure projects that ports were building not for five years but for 30, 40, or 50 years down the road.
One of the things ports have become good at is strategic management—"adaptive management in uncertain times," as AAPA's former chairperson Geraldine Knatz called it. Ports are continually adapting their management strategies as situations change and evolve. Our members are looking at the Panama Canal expansion and other factors in international trade to determine what they mean for individual ports, as well as how to prepare themselves and adapt successfully to the new environment, whatever their role might be, whether as major load centers, feeder ports, or sites for handling specialized or niche cargoes.
Q: Exporters and importers—the ports' ultimate customers—say their top concerns are service quality, responsiveness, and efficiency. How can ports, which have limited flexibility because of their fixed infrastructure, ensure that they meet those needs? A: Ports are doing everything they can to make their own operations and the things they have direct control over as efficient, responsive, and flexible as possible to ensure the ultimate customer's needs are met. But this issue gets into the less clear or less direct role of public port authorities. A lot goes on at ports involving participants in the logistics chain that public port authorities don't have direct control over, such as terminal operators if the port is a landlord, tugs, pilots, the Coast Guard, Customs, security, labor, the Army Corps of Engineers, and private railroads and trucking companies. Public port agencies can serve as a vehicle to help coordinate, collaborate, partner, and facilitate the broad range of interests in and around the port. This is critical to achieving efficiency and supporting the customer.
Ports are, to a larger extent than in the past, looking to take on leadership roles that extend far beyond the terminal gates to whatever impacts them and their customers. That includes transportation policy affecting landside and waterside issues that are not in their direct control. The port authority is playing an increasingly vital, expanded role that is not limited to the confines of its facilities.
As a contract provider of warehousing, logistics, and supply chain solutions, Geodis often has to provide customized services for clients.
That was the case recently when one of its customers asked Geodis to up its inventory monitoring game—specifically, to begin conducting quarterly cycle counts of the goods it stored at a Geodis site. Trouble was, performing more frequent counts would be something of a burden for the facility, which still conducted inventory counts manually—a process that was tedious and, depending on what else the team needed to accomplish, sometimes required overtime.
So Levallois, France-based Geodis launched a search for a technology solution that would both meet the customer’s demand and make its inventory monitoring more efficient overall, hoping to save time, labor, and money in the process.
SCAN AND DELIVER
Geodis found a solution with Gather AI, a Pittsburgh-based firm that automates inventory monitoring by deploying small drones to fly through a warehouse autonomously scanning pallets and cases. The system’s machine learning (ML) algorithm analyzes the resulting inventory pictures to identify barcodes, lot codes, text, and expiration dates; count boxes; and estimate occupancy, gathering information that warehouse operators need and comparing it with what’s in the warehouse management system (WMS).
Among other benefits, this means employees no longer have to spend long hours doing manual inventory counts with order-picker forklifts. On top of that, the warehouse manager is able to view inventory data in real time from a web dashboard and identify and address inventory exceptions.
But perhaps the biggest benefit of all is the speed at which it all happens. Gather AI’s drones perform those scans up to 15 times faster than traditional methods, the company says. To that point, it notes that before the drones were deployed at the Geodis site, four manual counters could complete approximately 800 counts in a day. By contrast, the drones are able to scan 1,200 locations per day.
FLEXIBLE FLYERS
Although Geodis had a number of options when it came to tech vendors, there were a couple of factors that tipped the odds in Gather AI’s favor, the partners said. One was its close cultural fit with Geodis. “Probably most important during that vetting process was understanding the cultural fit between Geodis and that vendor. We truly wanted to form a relationship with the company we selected,” Geodis Senior Director of Innovation Andy Johnston said in a release.
Speaking to this cultural fit, Johnston added, “Gather AI understood our business, our challenges, and the course of business throughout our day. They trained our personnel to get them comfortable with the technology and provided them with a tool that would truly make their job easier. This is pretty advanced technology, but the Gather AI user interface allowed our staff to see inventory variances intuitively, and they picked it up quickly. This shows me that Gather AI understood what we needed.”
Another factor in Gather AI’s favor was the prospect of a quick and easy deployment: Because the drones can conduct their missions without GPS or Wi-Fi, the supplier would be able to get its solution up and running quickly. In the words of Geodis Industrial Engineer Trent McDermott, “The Gather AI implementation process was efficient. There were no IT infrastructure or layout changes needed, and Gather AI was flexible with the installation to not disrupt peak hours for the operations team.”
QUICK RESULTS
Once the drones were in the air, Geodis saw immediate improvements in cycle counting speed, according to Gather AI. But that wasn’t the only benefit: Geodis was also able to more easily find misplaced pallets.
“Previously, we would research the inventory’s systemic license plate number (LPN),” McDermott explained. “We could narrow it down to a portion or a section of the warehouse where we thought that LPN was, but there was still a lot of ambiguity. So we would send an operator out on a mission to go hunt and find that LPN,” a process that could take a day or two to complete. But the days of scouring the facility for lost pallets are over. With Gather AI, the team can simply search in the dashboard to find the last location where the pallet was scanned.
And about that customer who wanted more frequent inventory counts? Geodis reports that it completed its first quarterly count for the client in half the time it had previously taken, with no overtime needed. “It’s a huge win for us to trim that time down,” McDermott said. “Just two weeks into the new quarter, we were able to have 40% of the warehouse completed.”
The less-than-truckload (LTL) industry moved closer to a revamped freight classification system this week, as the National Motor Freight Traffic Association (NMFTA) continued to spread the word about upcoming changes to the way it helps shippers and carriers determine delivery rates. The NMFTA will publish proposed changes to its National Motor Freight Classification (NMFC) system Thursday, a transition announced last year, and that the organization has termed its “classification reimagination” process.
Businesses throughout the LTL industry will be affected by the changes, as the NMFC is a tool for setting prices that is used daily by transportation providers, trucking fleets, third party logistics service providers (3PLs), and freight brokers.
Representatives from NMFTA were on hand to discuss the changes at the LTL-focused supply chain conference Jump Start 25 in Atlanta this week. The project’s goal is to make what is currently a complex freight classification system easier to understand and “to make the logistics process as frictionless as possible,” NMFTA’s Director of Operations Keith Peterson told attendees during a presentation about the project.
The changes seek to simplify classification by grouping similar items together and assigning most classes based solely on density. Exceptions will be handled separately, adding other characteristics when density alone is not enough to determine an accurate class.
When the updates take effect later this year, shippers may see shifts in the LTL prices they pay to move freight—because the way their freight is classified, and subsequently billed, could change as a result.
NMFTA will publish the proposed changes this Thursday, January 30, in a document called Docket 2025-1. The docket will include more than 90 proposed changes and is open to industry feedback through February 25. NMFTA will follow with a public meeting to review and discuss feedback on March 3. The changes will take effect July 19.
NMFTA has a dedicated website detailing the changes, where industry stakeholders can register to receive bi-weekly updates: https://info.nmfta.org/2025-nmfc-changes.
Trade and transportation groups are congratulating Sean Duffy today for winning confirmation in a U.S. Senate vote to become the country’s next Secretary of Transportation.
Once he’s sworn in, Duffy will become the nation’s 20th person to hold that post, succeeding the recently departed Pete Buttigieg.
Transportation groups quickly called on Duffy to work on continuing the burst of long-overdue infrastructure spending that was a hallmark of the Biden Administration’s passing of the bipartisan infrastructure law, known formally as the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (IIJA).
But according to industry associations such as the Coalition for America’s Gateways and Trade Corridors (CAGTC), federal spending is critical for funding large freight projects that sustain U.S. supply chains. “[Duffy] will direct the Department at an important time, implementing the remaining two years of the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, and charting a course for the next surface transportation reauthorization,” CAGTC Executive Director Elaine Nessle said in a release. “During his confirmation hearing, Secretary Duffy shared the new Administration’s goal to invest in large, durable projects that connect the nation and commerce. CAGTC shares this goal and is eager to work with Secretary Duffy to ensure that nationally and regionally significant freight projects are advanced swiftly and funded robustly.”
A similar message came from the International Foodservice Distributors Association (IFDA). “A safe, efficient, and reliable transportation network is essential to our industry, enabling 33 million cases of food and related products to reach professional kitchens every day. We look forward to working with Secretary Duffy to strengthen America’s transportation infrastructure and workforce to support the safe and seamless movement of ingredients that make meals away from home possible,” IFDA President and CEO Mark S. Allen said in a release.
And the truck drivers’ group the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association (OOIDA) likewise called for continued investment in projects like creating new parking spaces for Class 8 trucks. “OOIDA and the 150,000 small business truckers we represent congratulate Secretary Sean Duffy on his confirmation to lead the U.S. Department of Transportation,” OOIDA President Todd Spencer said in a release. “We look forward to continue working with him in advancing the priorities of small business truckers across America, including expanding truck parking, fighting freight fraud, and rolling back burdensome, unnecessary regulations.”
With the new Trump Administration continuing to threaten steep tariffs on Mexico, Canada, and China as early as February 1, supply chain organizations preparing for that economic shock must be prepared to make strategic responses that go beyond either absorbing new costs or passing them on to customers, according to Gartner Inc.
But even as they face what would be the most significant tariff changes proposed in the past 50 years, some enterprises could use the potential market volatility to drive a competitive advantage against their rivals, the analyst group said.
Gartner experts said the risks of acting too early to proposed tariffs—and anticipated countermeasures by trading partners—are as acute as acting too late. Chief supply chain officers (CSCOs) should be projecting ahead to potential countermeasures, escalations and de-escalations as part of their current scenario planning activities.
“CSCOs who anticipate that current tariff volatility will persist for years, rather than months, should also recognize that their business operations will not emerge successful by remaining static or purely on the defensive,” Brian Whitlock, Senior Research Director in Gartner’s supply chain practice, said in a release.
“The long-term winners will reinvent or reinvigorate their business strategies, developing new capabilities that drive competitive advantage. In almost all cases, this will require material business investment and should be a focal point of current scenario planning,” Whitlock said.
Gartner listed five possible pathways for CSCOs and other leaders to consider when faced with new tariff policy changes:
Retire certain products: Tariff volatility will stress some specific products, or even organizations, to a breaking point, so some enterprises may have to accept that worsening geopolitical conditions should force the retirement of that product.
Renovate products to adjust: New tariffs could prompt renovations (adjustments) to products that were overdue, as businesses will need to take a hard look at the viability of raising or absorbing costs in a still price-sensitive environment.
Rebalance: Additional volatility should be factored into future demand planning, as early winners and losers from initial tariff policies must both be prepared for potential countermeasures, policy escalations and de-escalations, and competitor responses.
Reinvent: As tariff volatility persists, some companies should consider investing in new projects in markets that are not impacted or that align with new geopolitical incentives. Others may pivot and repurpose existing facilities to serve local markets.
Reinvigorate: Early winners of announced tariffs should seek opportunities to extend competitive advantages. For example, they could look to expand existing US-based or domestic manufacturing capacity or reposition themselves within the market by lowering their prices to take market share and drive business growth.
By the numbers, global logistics real estate rents declined by 5% last year as market conditions “normalized” after historic growth during the pandemic. After more than a decade overall of consistent growth, the change was driven by rising real estate vacancy rates up in most markets, Prologis said. The three causes for that condition included an influx of new building supply, coupled with positive but subdued demand, and uncertainty about conditions in the economic, financial market, and supply chain sectors.
Together, those factors triggered negative annual rent growth in the U.S. and Europe for the first time since the global financial crisis of 2007-2009, the “Prologis Rent Index Report” said. Still, that dip was smaller than pandemic-driven outperformance, so year-end 2024 market rents were 59% higher in the U.S. and 33% higher in Europe than year-end 2019.
Looking into coming months, Prologis expects moderate recovery in market rents in 2025 and stronger gains in 2026. That eventual recovery in market rents will require constrained supply, high replacement cost rents, and demand for Class A properties, Prologis said. In addition, a stronger demand resurgence—whether prompted by the need to navigate supply chain disruptions or meet the needs of end consumers—should put upward pressure on a broad range of locations and building types.