taking it to the next level: interview with Ed Huller
Lots of people will tell you that well-oiled supply chain operations can bolster the bottom line. Ed Huller may be the first to suggest they can give the top line a boost as well.
Mitch Mac Donald has more than 30 years of experience in both the newspaper and magazine businesses. He has covered the logistics and supply chain fields since 1988. Twice named one of the Top 10 Business Journalists in the U.S., he has served in a multitude of editorial and publishing roles. The leading force behind the launch of Supply Chain Management Review, he was that brand's founding publisher and editorial director from 1997 to 2000. Additionally, he has served as news editor, chief editor, publisher and editorial director of Logistics Management, as well as publisher of Modern Materials Handling. Mitch is also the president and CEO of Agile Business Media, LLC, the parent company of DC VELOCITY and CSCMP's Supply Chain Quarterly.
It's probably no surprise that the new chairman of the Council of Supply Chain Management Professionals' board of directors considers supply chain management to be strategic. Or that he's a tireless advocate for the profession. But Edward Huller's views on what could be called the supply chain opportunity set him apart from crowd. Logistics and supply chain excellence represents more than an opportunity to improve the bottom line, he says. It offers a huge opportunity to enhance the top line—sales and revenue growth—as well.
Huller bases that bold statement on experience—36 years of experience in the profession, to be exact. He began his career in 1970 with the Dow Chemical Co., where he spent the next three decades in a variety of logistics and supply chain posts throughout North America and Europe. After retiring from Dow, Huller was recruited by Borden Chemical Inc. in 1999. As Borden's vice president, global supply chain, he spent the next few years building a world-class integrated supply chain strategy and organization. In 2003, Huller formed his own company, Alden Consulting Group, which specializes in strategic supply chain and sourcing solutions as well as executive coaching for functional and business leaders.
A long-time member of the Council of Supply Chain Management Professionals (CSCMP),Huller has served as chairman of both its Research Strategies and Professional Development committees. He is also a frequent conference speaker and guest lecturer at universities. He holds an undergraduate degree in logistics management from the University of Maryland and is APICS-certified.
Huller spoke recently with DC VELOCITY Editorial Director Mitch Mac Donald about what skills today's managers need to succeed, why logisticians' proposals sometimes fall on deaf ears, and the challenge and opportunity that is China.
Q: Tell us a little bit about your background. How did you end up in the logistics profession?
A: I actually have a degree in physical distribution management from the University of Maryland. When I started college, I realized I had been exposed to logistics for years through my father, who had been a senior operations executive at a drugstore firm and had worked in Army and Air Force exchange operations. So I had an early exposure to things like planning and purchasing and distributing products to various locations, primarily in North America and Europe—I lived in Europe for six years as a kid. As I began my studies in the logistics program at Maryland, I realized I understood this stuff and enjoyed it. To make a long story short, that's how I got started with logistics. Then, after I graduated in 1970, I began my career with the Dow Chemical Co.—at that time, the chemical industry was one of the few that were hiring logistics grads. I spent the next 30 years with them in a variety of staff and operational roles. Dow moved people around quite a bit, so I had a chance to try my hand at logistics and planning, purchasing, business systems, all those things, working in both the United States and Europe.
Q: It really helps you gain a macro view of your operation.
A: Yes, that and having seen the various functions. The chemical industry, by its nature, is highly integrated. I learned first hand over the years the importance of sharing information, integrating decisions and so forth.
Q: You were actually discovering these things before the term "supply chain" had even entered the lexicon.
A: Precisely. The chemical industry is one that doesn't tend to talk much publicly about its successes, but it really was doing supply chain activities quite early. I went to Europe in 1988 to set up a center of excellence that became our supply chain center in Europe. I then returned to the United States to introduce some of the ideas developed in Europe and to begin working with people over here to implement those practices and processes. That was the early '90s. We were focused on integrated supply chains. Dow had always been a pretty highly matrixed organization, which meant I had opportunities early on in my career to serve on various product and business management teams. That gave me a chance to understand the importance of integration and to understand business issues versus just functional issues. That is a theme you will hear me mention time and again because I think that is a key factor in this profession.
Q: In other words, you're saying that well-managed logistics and supply chain operations can help the company's bottom line, right?
A: No question about it. It should help the company's bottom line in a big—and measurable—way. In a way, it actually should help its top line—sales and revenue growth—as well. I think there is an often overlooked, huge opportunity to impact the top line.
Q: I haven't heard anyone put it quite that way before. Expand on that a little bit, would you?
A: If you try to think like a business leader, you begin to see ways in which you can use your supply chain capabilities to expand sales. For instance, you might be able to develop an efficient supply chain channel that allows you to serve a new geographical market or smaller customers that, maybe in your old model, were deemed unprofitable from a cost-to-serve standpoint. Or you might find that by coming up with ways to cut lead times from four weeks to two, you can enter new markets with short lead-time requirements that you previously couldn't get into.
Q: As I said, that's an interesting wrinkle. It's always, you know, show me the bottom line.
A: Yes. But that ability to influence the top line may be what finally gets supply chain a seat at the boardroom table that gets talked about so much. Business leaders tend to dismiss logistics and supply chain as a necessary backroom function. They need to be enlightened as to how we can actually use our supply chain expertise as a strategic weapon to open new markets.
Here's where communication skills come into play. In the past, logisticians have had a tough time getting the CEO and other C-level leaders to listen to them. One of the lessons I learned very early was to stop talking like a logistician and start talking like a business leader. If your company's top managers just don't seem to get your ideas about inventory optimization or asset utilization or whatever it may be, it's typically not because they're stupid; it's because you haven't learned how to communicate. Learning how to communicate and think like a business leader is a critical skill.
Q: You may have just answered my next question: What is the single most important skill set for a supply chain executive working today? Would it be what you just described, the ability to think like a business person as opposed to a logistician?
A: Yes. I think that probably would be it. Thinking broadly, thinking of options and trade-offs, thinking of what is right for the business without regard to what is right for an individual function ... that's how you arrive at those integrated kinds of solutions. When we worked in our business teams at Dow, we weren't rewarded solely on the basis of how our individual functions did; we were also rewarded for how the overall business did. It ultimately drove you to make the right decisions for the business.
Q: I think that's something people often overlook. Regardless of what you're doing, you always have to be mindful of the fact that ultimately a company is a business enterprise. That's why it exists. That is the core mission, to be a successful business enterprise.
A: And it applies to any kind of activity. Again, I think it speaks to more of the focus of the last decade or so on supply chains as evolving out of logistics and other areas. It begs for that integration of trade-offs. It is opening up the opportunities that the old functional ways did not permit. Even if you excelled in each of those functional areas, you were leaving opportunity on the table because you weren't optimizing the whole business. That is always the challenge of a business leader. Traditionally, they have had to manage their functional leaders. It was that business leader who was doing the trade-offs, looking for efficiency for the overall enterprise. What supply chains require today is for leaders to flat-out excel in that area—to be able to make those trade-offs and bring those options to the table. I think that is the critical skill.
Q: Are there any other important skill sets that come to mind?
A: Another, to me, is getting the right people on the team. At the end of the day, it is all about people. We can read the same books and we can use the same consultants, but the company that will win in the end is the one that puts together a team that will really apply the ideas and concepts and drive the change.
Q: Let's shift gears a bit. You've been in the business for three-plus decades now.What are the biggest changes you've seen in that time?
A: One thing would certainly be technology. The technology continues to change in leaps and bounds and far outpaces our capability to implement and optimize it. This is a technology-driven field, pure and simple, whether it's the technology used to gather and analyze information or the technology used to carry out physical operations in the DC.
Q: So you're defining technology not only as hardware and software but also technology-based automated equipment and so forth?
A: Correct.
Q: What other big changes have you seen?
A: Along with the growing technical requirements of the job—the need to understand and utilize technology— another big change is the sheer breadth of the operations. Managers who once were responsible for overseeing a very siloed functional activity— whether it was running a fleet or managing a distribution center or counting inventory—are now called upon to understand and manage a broad spectrum of activities. That has significantly raised the skill and capability requirements in this field.
Q: When you talk about the breadth of operations, are you speaking strictly of the functions within a business or are you referring to geography as well?
A: I'm referring to both. Today's managers need to understand all of the business activities and then, layered upon that, be able to apply that knowledge across different geographies. Now, you can't say this about every business, but an increasing number of businesses—and probably the majority of businesses—have to have some understanding outside of their base geographical area either for customers or suppliers or their own operations, whatever they may be. That adds yet another skill requirement.
Q: Right. And I would presume an extra layer of complexity.
A: Without question. The activities have become more complex. Change is occurring more frequently. People have to learn to be able to manage in the fog. If you put off making decisions until things settle down and you can think matters through, you're making a mistake. That isn't going to happen. Things are simply not going to slow down.
That's why it is so critical to develop the ability and perspective to get it 80 percent right and then move on to the next item. And you have to do that continually. Again, this is not the traditional approach. It is a different kind of skill set, but it's one that is absolutely essential to be able to excel in today's environment.
Q: We've just talked about the biggest changes you've witnessed over the past 30 or so years. Is there anything that hasn't changed at all?
A: To my mind, what hasn't changed is the need to hire outstanding people. This is a people business. It is not a technology business or an information systems business. The technology and the systems are simply tools that, when well applied, can help the business excel. Anyone who assumes that advances in automation and information technology have made people less important is making a mistake. It's really the other way around. Automation may allow you to get by with fewer people, but those people must be highly skilled individuals. As I see it, at the end of the day, the company with the best people is the one that is going to win.
Q: You traveled to China this summer with some of the CSCMP directors. What lessons did you take away from that trip?
A: In my travels over the past year to both Europe and Asia—most recently, to Shanghai and Beijing—I've noticed that the drive to understand supply chain and logis tics on a global basis is greater than it has ever been before. I also think we need to become much better acquainted with what people in other parts of the world are doing, even if it is a regional activity, because there are some really great leading practices occurring around the world.
I hadn't been to China for a couple of years, and I couldn't help but notice the tremendous amount of growth, development and capital investment that had taken place in just that short time. As we all know or at least suspect, it is simply immense. Coastal operations had been a focus in China's prior five-year plan and continue to be now, in their 11th five-year plan, which they just ratified. The new plan, though, adds a stronger focus on inland cities and developments.
Q: You're talking about infrastructure?
A: Yes. China's government is trying to develop business models that encourage development and employment in the country's interior provinces. The problem is, the inland logistics infrastructure is poorly developed. Roads, railroads, airports ... there are still huge challenges for them to overcome.
Once these issues are resolved, China will become a huge domestic market for its own products and services. In the meantime, however, China's logistics professionals are dealing with some unique logistics challenges—challenges resulting from the size of the country, the various levels of regulations and so forth. Right now, the individual provinces have regulatory power over transportation, which means they can determine, say, what documentation is required for freight moving within their borders. That adds layers of complexity to something as basic as arranging for a long-distance domestic shipment.
Q: Which I guess would be their equivalent of interstate commerce.
A: Right. In many ways, it is much easier for them to import and export than it is to ship domestically amongst the various provinces.
Q: Is the rise of China something for American businesses to fear or something to embrace as an opportunity?
A: To me, it is always an opportunity. I spend a lot of time building organizations and recruiting people, and one of the attributes I look for in people is a positive attitude— the ability to see opportunities, not problems. Again, if you think like a business person, you think of opportunities, so China is a huge opportunity for American business. It is only threatening if you don't invest the time to understand and find out where that opportunity exists for your business. It is clearly a significant opportunity.
Q: Is there anything else you'd like to share with DC VELOCITY's readers?
A: Gee, do we have a couple of days here?
Q: We have all the time in the world.
A: Well, I'd like to sum it up by quoting [CSCMP President and CEO] Rick Blasgen, who says: "This is a great time to be in supply chain." The profession that was once viewed as a sort of backroom functional necessity is being increasingly recognized for what it is: a real strategic business capability that can drive both top-line and bottom-line improvements. Of course, as the expectations have changed, the skill requirements have also changed. The companies and the individuals who will succeed in this new environment are the ones that invest the time needed to develop and maintain those new skills.
A move by federal regulators to reinforce requirements for broker transparency in freight transactions is stirring debate among transportation groups, after the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) published a “notice of proposed rulemaking” this week.
According to FMCSA, its draft rule would strive to make broker transparency more common, requiring greater sharing of the material information necessary for transportation industry parties to make informed business decisions and to support the efficient resolution of disputes.
The proposed rule titled “Transparency in Property Broker Transactions” would address what FMCSA calls the lack of access to information among shippers and motor carriers that can impact the fairness and efficiency of the transportation system, and would reframe broker transparency as a regulatory duty imposed on brokers, with the goal of deterring non-compliance. Specifically, the move would require brokers to keep electronic records, and require brokers to provide transaction records to motor carriers and shippers upon request and within 48 hours of that request.
Under federal regulatory processes, public comments on the move are due by January 21, 2025. However, transportation groups are not waiting on the sidelines to voice their opinions.
According to the Transportation Intermediaries Association (TIA), an industry group representing the third-party logistics (3PL) industry, the potential rule is “misguided overreach” that fails to address the more pressing issue of freight fraud. In TIA’s view, broker transparency regulation is “obsolete and un-American,” and has no place in today’s “highly transparent” marketplace. “This proposal represents a misguided focus on outdated and unnecessary regulations rather than tackling issues that genuinely threaten the safety and efficiency of our nation’s supply chains,” TIA said.
But trucker trade group the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association (OOIDA) welcomed the proposed rule, which it said would ensure that brokers finally play by the rules. “We appreciate that FMCSA incorporated input from our petition, including a requirement to make records available electronically and emphasizing that brokers have a duty to comply with regulations. As FMCSA noted, broker transparency is necessary for a fair, efficient transportation system, and is especially important to help carriers defend themselves against alleged claims on a shipment,” OOIDA President Todd Spencer said in a statement.
Additional pushback came from the Small Business in Transportation Coalition (SBTC), a network of transportation professionals in small business, which said the potential rule didn’t go far enough. “This is too little too late and is disappointing. It preserves the status quo, which caters to Big Broker & TIA. There is no question now that FMCSA has been captured by Big Broker. Truckers and carriers must now come out in droves and file comments in full force against this starting tomorrow,” SBTC executive director James Lamb said in a LinkedIn post.
The “series B” funding round was financed by an unnamed “strategic customer” as well as Teradyne Robotics Ventures, Toyota Ventures, Ranpak, Third Kind Venture Capital, One Madison Group, Hyperplane, Catapult Ventures, and others.
The fresh backing comes as Massachusetts-based Pickle reported a spate of third quarter orders, saying that six customers placed orders for over 30 production robots to deploy in the first half of 2025. The new orders include pilot conversions, existing customer expansions, and new customer adoption.
“Pickle is hitting its strides delivering innovation, development, commercial traction, and customer satisfaction. The company is building groundbreaking technology while executing on essential recurring parts of a successful business like field service and manufacturing management,” Omar Asali, Pickle board member and CEO of investor Ranpak, said in a release.
According to Pickle, its truck-unloading robot applies “Physical AI” technology to one of the most labor-intensive, physically demanding, and highest turnover work areas in logistics operations. The platform combines a powerful vision system with generative AI foundation models trained on millions of data points from real logistics and warehouse operations that enable Pickle’s robotic hardware platform to perform physical work at human-scale or better, the company says.
Bloomington, Indiana-based FTR said its Trucking Conditions Index declined in September to -2.47 from -1.39 in August as weakness in the principal freight dynamics – freight rates, utilization, and volume – offset lower fuel costs and slightly less unfavorable financing costs.
Those negative numbers are nothing new—the TCI has been positive only twice – in May and June of this year – since April 2022, but the group’s current forecast still envisions consistently positive readings through at least a two-year forecast horizon.
“Aside from a near-term boost mostly related to falling diesel prices, we have not changed our Trucking Conditions Index forecast significantly in the wake of the election,” Avery Vise, FTR’s vice president of trucking, said in a release. “The outlook continues to be more favorable for carriers than what they have experienced for well over two years. Our analysis indicates gradual but steadily rising capacity utilization leading to stronger freight rates in 2025.”
But FTR said its forecast remains unchanged. “Just like everyone else, we’ll be watching closely to see exactly what trade and other economic policies are implemented and over what time frame. Some freight disruptions are likely due to tariffs and other factors, but it is not yet clear that those actions will do more than shift the timing of activity,” Vise said.
The TCI tracks the changes representing five major conditions in the U.S. truck market: freight volumes, freight rates, fleet capacity, fuel prices, and financing costs. Combined into a single index indicating the industry’s overall health, a positive score represents good, optimistic conditions while a negative score shows the inverse.
Specifically, the new global average robot density has reached a record 162 units per 10,000 employees in 2023, which is more than double the mark of 74 units measured seven years ago.
Broken into geographical regions, the European Union has a robot density of 219 units per 10,000 employees, an increase of 5.2%, with Germany, Sweden, Denmark and Slovenia in the global top ten. Next, North America’s robot density is 197 units per 10,000 employees – up 4.2%. And Asia has a robot density of 182 units per 10,000 persons employed in manufacturing - an increase of 7.6%. The economies of Korea, Singapore, mainland China and Japan are among the top ten most automated countries.
Broken into individual countries, the U.S. ranked in 10th place in 2023, with a robot density of 295 units. Higher up on the list, the top five are:
The Republic of Korea, with 1,012 robot units, showing a 5% increase on average each year since 2018 thanks to its strong electronics and automotive industries.
Singapore had 770 robot units, in part because it is a small country with a very low number of employees in the manufacturing industry, so it can reach a high robot density with a relatively small operational stock.
China took third place in 2023, surpassing Germany and Japan with a mark of 470 robot units as the nation has managed to double its robot density within four years.
Germany ranks fourth with 429 robot units for a 5% CAGR since 2018.
Japan is in fifth place with 419 robot units, showing growth of 7% on average each year from 2018 to 2023.
Progress in generative AI (GenAI) is poised to impact business procurement processes through advancements in three areas—agentic reasoning, multimodality, and AI agents—according to Gartner Inc.
Those functions will redefine how procurement operates and significantly impact the agendas of chief procurement officers (CPOs). And 72% of procurement leaders are already prioritizing the integration of GenAI into their strategies, thus highlighting the recognition of its potential to drive significant improvements in efficiency and effectiveness, Gartner found in a survey conducted in July, 2024, with 258 global respondents.
Gartner defined the new functions as follows:
Agentic reasoning in GenAI allows for advanced decision-making processes that mimic human-like cognition. This capability will enable procurement functions to leverage GenAI to analyze complex scenarios and make informed decisions with greater accuracy and speed.
Multimodality refers to the ability of GenAI to process and integrate multiple forms of data, such as text, images, and audio. This will make GenAI more intuitively consumable to users and enhance procurement's ability to gather and analyze diverse information sources, leading to more comprehensive insights and better-informed strategies.
AI agents are autonomous systems that can perform tasks and make decisions on behalf of human operators. In procurement, these agents will automate procurement tasks and activities, freeing up human resources to focus on strategic initiatives, complex problem-solving and edge cases.
As CPOs look to maximize the value of GenAI in procurement, the study recommended three starting points: double down on data governance, develop and incorporate privacy standards into contracts, and increase procurement thresholds.
“These advancements will usher procurement into an era where the distance between ideas, insights, and actions will shorten rapidly,” Ryan Polk, senior director analyst in Gartner’s Supply Chain practice, said in a release. "Procurement leaders who build their foundation now through a focus on data quality, privacy and risk management have the potential to reap new levels of productivity and strategic value from the technology."